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 Posted 07/09/2006  01:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TSOTL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been a bit interested in silver bullion coins from other countries lately. Australian coins seem to be pretty popular around here and I'm a bit confused about the Lunars and kookaburas and such. Can anyone give me a quick run down on these as far as dates, sizes, maybe a bit of the history on them?

Also, how many countries have silver bullion coins anyway? I know the U.S., Canada, England, Australia, Mexico and China have put out some but does anyone know any others?
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 Posted 07/09/2006  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but I would say that I collect Australian Lunar and Kookaburras, ASE's, Maple Leafs, and Britannias.

Of all the coins I collect, my personal favorite for beauty is the Lunar series.

In all cases I collect the 1 ounce silver coins.
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 Posted 07/09/2006  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Australian situation is confused slightly because we have two mints, the Royal Australian Mint (RAM) in Canberra and the Perth Mint, each issuing their own bullion coin series.

Perth is the main (by volume) bullion issuer, with it's gold nuggets (a.k.a. "kangaroos"), silver kookaburras, platinum koalas and (briefly, in the 1990's) palladium emus. Perth also make Chinese New Year coins (the Lunars). Perth Mint started issuing bullion in the 1980's, shortly after the orders for circulating bronze coinage stopped coming to Perth. The silver "kookaburras" began in 1990. Here's their homepage.

The RAM issues our circulating coins, as well as some collector and bullion, including the silver "kangaroo dollars" or "skippies". They've issued gold coins since 1980, silver (irregularly) since 1966, but neither in "bullion grade" until the mid-1990's. Here's the RAM website.

As for other countries issuing bullion, it might be easier to name the ones that haven't, as very few countries have issued no bullion-grade coinage at all. South Africa, Russia and the Isle of Man come to my mind as prominent bullion-makers not on your list (South Africa issues gold ones only, Russian silvers are mostly non-bullion (.900 fine), and the Isle of Man is the major outlet for Pobjoy Mint products). I know Perth Mint also makes "bullion" coins for several smaller states, like Tuvalu, Uganda and Cook Islands. Other small countries (Liberia comes to mind) are "flags of convenience" for other mint corporations to make bullion coinage.

Switzerland makes virtually no bullion; neither does Japan. Surprising, given the importance of their economies.
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 Posted 07/09/2006  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Swiss have some pretty interesting bullion.....

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Thats beautiful,Becky
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beside the ones you posted I have 2006 coins from Isle of man, Austria, Have the 2004 and 2005 New zealand ones there 2006 was just released. A good place for you to look is beside the ones you posted I have 2006 coins from Isle of man, Austria, Have the 2004 and 2005 New zealand ones there 2006 was just released. A good place for you to look is http://www.eurocollections.com/
and maybe http://www.downies.com/
http://www.pandausa.com/
I have about 16 diffent 2005 or 2006 silver bullion coins from other contries I know there are alot more out there but I am going to only collect about 15-18 diffent foriegn and US bullion coins. It also depend on what your goals are is it just to collect bullion styles like the ASE or are you going to collect Silver Dollar Commertive foriegn coins if so that is a very big task.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this, a complete collection from every country is out of the question, but I've been thinking of getting one from as many countries as I can from the year 2000. No real reason for 2000 other than the whole new millenium thing. It seems Australia really likes a lot of variety in their bullion coins, dunno what I'm going to do there but that lunar series looks nice.

How would I go about getting this kind of thing in Indiana? Do those of you who collect from other countries buy them off the net, ebay or online dealers maybe, or are there other ways to get them in the states? I haven't really looked around locally for foreign bullion coins yet but I don't think there is much selection ("No, really, not in Indiana" you say).

Becky, that Swiss coin is very nice. Is that part of a set and are they the all same design?
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Great Britian Britanna yr1999
New Zealand Kiwi yr2004
New Zealand Kiwi yr2005
Austrialian Kookarra yr2006
Austrialian Lunar Dog yr2006
Austrialian Kangaroo yr2006
Austria Nonnberg yr2006
China Panda yr2006
Candian Maple Leaf yr2006
Great Britian Britanna yr2006
USA ASE yr2006
Isle of man Cats yr2006

here are all of the silver dollars I have bought this year and the ones I am going to be buying every year from 2006 on there are two main out there to try and buy all of them but these one can be found a little easyer then alot of the ones from other counties.
I have bought a few from my local dealer but most from online dealers.
http://www.mintproducts.com/
www.Downies.com
http://www.eurocollections.com/cata...product=1851
http://www.newcastlecoins.com.au/(Bigfella CC member)
http://www.jtcoins.com/default.asp
these are all places I have bought my foriegn silver dollars from. you should be able to get the Pandas, Maple Leafs, and ASE at most coin shops that carry bullion coins. Also I have heard that.
http://www.pandausa.com/ is a good place some of these places might be higher then others but here are a few I have bought from I know there are alot of other places that sell them as well and since I have not bought from them I can't recemend them. hope this help. I got all the ones I listed above for under 250.00.
Also if you click on the link in my signature line then you will be able to see most of them there.
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"Becky, that Swiss coin is very nice. Is that part of a set and are they the all same design?"

Every year that I have seen has a different design. This is the only size silver coin I have seen from this year, but the gold version has 5 different sizes. The gold versions are so beautiful, but too pricey for me, so I had to settle for the silver
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Originally posted by Sap




The RAM issues our circulating coins, as well as some collector and bullion, including the silver "kangaroo dollars" or "skippies".
As for other countries issuing bullion, it might be easier to name the ones that haven't, as very few countries have issued no bullion-grade coinage at all.




The $1 Kangaroo coin is not a bullion coin. Although the price would indicate it is, it is in fact not. The RAM does not produce bullion coins. It produces circulation and collector coins only.
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Becky: Those "Swiss" ones are listed in "Unusual World Coins", so they're not government issues. Perhaps the Swiss are happy to leave the local bullion market solely in the hands of the private mints; that would explain why there's no Swiss bullion in Krause.

Bigfella: Sorry, I was being lazy and using "bullion" to mean anything struck with .999 fine silver, in even multiples and divisions of the ounce weight. As far as I'm concerned, if it's bullion grade, bullion weight and sells for more-or-less bullion price, it's fair enough to call it "bullion". Krause calls the skippies "silver bullion - kangaroo" and wedges them in between the RAM "collector" coins and Perth Mint bullion.
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If I am correct the Swiss only have bars
Like the Credit Suisse bars
They have a refinery Pamp Suisse who has those famous roses and lady fortuna bars they only seem to sell in the USA
Also I read they do coins for some island sovereign states

Anyway in gold the vrenelli is really a bullion coin because the latter years have no premium over melt
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I really like the Swiss coin Becky has posted but was NOT aware of any Swiss bullion coins. Guess I will have to break down and buy a bar to add some Swiss bullion to my world collection. I must admit that coin is really attractive.
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Speaking of bullion coins, there aren't too many world coins that have bullion coins because they just can't afford it. Most often, it is the economically rich countries, or mineral rich countries that can easily afford.

There are two more countries that I can add to the list, but they are a good % more expensive than bullion prices.

Singapore Zodiac series
Russian ballerina series, or currently, zodiac series. Examples of such can be found in http://www.chervonets.com
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries
My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm
Regularly updated at least once a month.
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 Posted 07/11/2006  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tradernick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Credit Suisse is just a company that makes bars from precious metals. To my knowledge it's not affiliated with the country or government of Switzerland in any way. The Swiss mint has produced a large variety of bullion coins over the years, most of which are quite beautiful.

For those collectors who appreciate and crave world bullion, the Krause Catalog is your best friend. It's a quick and easy way to determine the bullion value of any world coin, as well as determine better date material.

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