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That might be what's called a rolling fold error. But, what for the pros on this one. Interesting find.
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If that is Cud, It's very thin. |
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I'd be inclined toward Retained Cud as well. The pictures of the rolling fold that I've seen have empty (rimless) areas around the 'fold' at the rim. In most (but not all) the empty part is also around the rest of the fold and the design is interrupted. I probably totally botched that explanation, let me get a picture.. |
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Here we go. See the area around the fold? Error Coin Encyclopedia calls it 'beveling' but you can also see how it's separated from the rest of the design.  Photo credit Error Coin Encyclopedia |
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Thanks xshift, just went back and reviewed that chapter. I see what you're talking about. Comparing those pics to Retained Cud pics, and Retained Cud does look more appropriate. |
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The thing that stuck out the most to me was the wear. Since a Retained Cud is a loose part of the die the area struck by it is higher and is sometimes not in perfect alignment with the other details. Notice how the wheat lines and the rim are worn flat on the area in question. This tells me this area was higher than the rest of the coin. Also the wheat stalk in this area looks shifted right just a little. With a rim burr (rolling fold error) the area is struck even with the rest of the coin and the details are in alignment with the rest of the coin. |
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks pyrbob.
Is either one more desirable than the other?
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That's a good question Scooby and I'm really not sure. Both errors are interesting and keepers. I would think the more desirable one would be the one worth more and I don't know the value of these.
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Thanks for the insight everyone.  I found this one in a batch of wheats I bought from sublime118. Thank you again Brian, it's a fantastic mix of coins! As to the question of it's value, I paid $.03 for it.  I don't "collect" 'em, but I do enjoy finding them. This one will probably find it's way into the auction section when I have a couple more posts here in the forum.  |
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Scotty I'm glad you like them. I hated to unload all those wheats, as I did have plans to really look at them one day. Something important to me came up for auction, and I knew it was gonna go for some good money, so I needed to raise some funds quickly. I won the auction but that's a different story!
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Looks similar to one I found but without as much circulation wear.  It had to pass through many hands before you found it and adopted it. |
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It's a Retained Cud. A Cud would have the piece completely missing - i.e., NO design inside the broken piece. |
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