1847 Crown

No disrespect andyg but I will go along with my experience and the experts I discuss coins with.Can I smell Lavender?
Our members have published works,some are professional dealers and BNTA members.
The fraud was initially noticed on Predecimal but when we see obvious fakes we post....It may just save a punter £800 on a 1 coin deal.
Yep I will keep collecting and where a noddy.

Several have been bought by unwitting buyers.We can stop the rot.
ebay can do what they like and get trading standards/police involved.
We can't champion the buyers but hey we are not going to get paid for that.They can fight their own battles.
By firing a shot over the bows we might save the next victim and stop the fraudster.

You are Roy and I claim my £5.
Caveat Emptor.

This thread appears to be getting a little heated so I thought I would add my tuppence worth, there is not really a lot anyone in this forum can do about the lost £800+ andyg, I actually purchased a coin from this seller on ebay recently, granted it was £25 and not £800, and I have I have no reservations about the authenticity of the coin, I'm happy to keep it in my collection until I know otherwise, I don't profess to be an EXPERT in coin collecting, but I do have almost 25years experience, and I believe that might count for something when giving an honest and unbiased opinion or bit of advice to someone with a bit less experience, all we can do in this forum is offer advice and opinions, and inform others of of situations to try and avoid, so if it sounds a bit heartless, The £800 is probably down the drain, and not a lot can be done about it, why would anyone want to pay to get a coin slabbed to find out if its fake if they are already out of pocket, if the Police or Trading Standards are involved in this case I suggest we let the investigative EXPERTS do what they know best, and good luck in achieving a conviction, but by making other buyers aware of this problem we just might prevent another £800 from being lost.

I'd buy one slabbed from a well known person....wouldn't want to lose $$$$ because I got a chinese fake

In the case of the Chinese Gothic Crowns and Florins, as Peter said, this is fraud on a major scale by a mojor seller knowngly selling Chinese fakes. He's sold as I stated previously an unhealthy amount this year alone, at an estimate I think I've seen 12 this year so far by him, times that by 1000 pounds less perhaps a 200 pound purchase price then you're looking at 9400 pounds of pure profit for junk, not a bad earner if you can get it, and lets bear in mind I have'nt even calculated the Gothic Florins yet.

Its fraud on a major scale and i'd suspect a jail term if convicted in a court. At predeciaml there is a few people who actually care what this seller is doing, so hopefully we can go the next step and do something about him, you can thank us when we do something about it, until then andyg, you continue to buy his bait, see how you collection grows in value

Detailed studies have been made of the Gothic crowns sold buy the seller and they all indicate the same imperfections.
The 1864 florins die 64 which are all identical NEF with the same markings and drip fed onto ebay are another story.