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What Would You Grade This 1924 St. Gaudens?

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 Posted 08/08/2006  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by pattiewhack

ok funs over... I wanted to see what this coin would receive from half-decent graders...
this St. Gaudens graded SGS (of course) MS-68



Above MS65 we should not talk about friction, rub and bagmarks
but about how even and deep the strike is and how good the die
was when it struck the planchet
Above MS67 I think it is time to get the stereomicroscope out
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 Posted 08/08/2006  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have only two coins above MS-67, both ASEs: a 2003 PCGS MS-68 and a 2004 PCGS MS-69. I would need a scanning electron microscope to determine the differences between them, if any. It'd be nice if I had an ASE in PCGS MS-70, but I'm not gonna knock myself out looking for one.

Besides, I'm not a believer in "perfection": dig deep enough with enough power and there'll be an imperfection.

Fred
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 Posted 08/13/2006  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never even seen a slabbed coin cause they are not popular in Europe

But the coins we photograded FDC (no blemish visible should equal at least MS 65 )all bought raw on some ebay in europe
Most came back from NGC MS 66 some MS 65 one MS 67
None came back in a bodybag
(My friend is the slabbing type [:p] )

So my conclusion is that without extensive references to appreciate the strike and a steromicroscope it is not possible to photograde beyond MS65-66 on the pics one normally sees

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 Posted 09/29/2006  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really like this section of the forum! It gives me a chance to learn things and try out what I learned to see how I do. I made my guess before reading the replys and thought it would be a 63 or 64, based on the wear. Ageka pointed out some areas I didn't even know to check (I still don't know what all to check really). One area I thought brought it down was the tip of the back wing of the eagle. The feathers look more worn than other parts of the wings (except the front of the top wing that was pointed out), but I don't know if that is a high spot or not on this coin. Very beautiful coin. What does it cost to send a single coin to PCGS to grade?
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 Posted 09/29/2006  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Guido
[ What does it cost to send a single coin to PCGS to grade?



At PCGS, first one must join its Collectors' Club which, depending on the membership level is $49.95, $99, or $199 or find a dealer or someone who already is a member to submit it for you. Submissions for a single coin are $50 (Express service) and up. Below this level, submissions must be a minimum of five coins. NGC is about the samed, ANACS is somewhat less.

http://www.pcgs.com/grading_list.chtml
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 Posted 09/30/2006  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info.
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