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Damaged planchet before minting through the scope its a pretty deep gouge
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 Posted 07/30/2010  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats neat!
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Another die gouge. Remember the letters are incuse on the die, so the field behind the letters would be raised. So, any kind of gouge or Feeder Finger Damage would appear behind the characters like that.
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Thanks Scooby the letters are a bit over sized also
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Here's one where the gouge runs "behind" the memorial. Same effect. The gouge is actually on the raised part of the die. Makes you wonder the first time you see it.

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I found one like this over an S mint mark. It made it look like a dollar sign. I am just starting to think upside down and backwards in order to figure out what these errors are. It really is easier if you think of the die as a negative image.
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Die dents are also a cause of these. Looks like the two examples would be a die dent or Feeder Finger Damage. They are in a very straight line unlike die gouges that not always.
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Interesting coop. I haven't heard of die dents. What are their cause?
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Something as hard as they are getting in the way of a strike leaving a mark on the die in the fields. If you coin was struck through something leaving a mark like yours has it would also appear in the devices as well. Here is an example of a struck through that show what I'm talking about.
Struck through wire:
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Note how the impression of the wire runs through the fields/devices even across the rim? That shows that something was in between the planchet and the die. Yours is on the field and not through the devices. so something happened on the die to leave this area just in the fields. If you had a OBW roll, then you would have found several examples of this. On the coin I posted the seller stated that the wire was attached and someone touched it and it fell off. I didn't believe the story at the time, but now you can see the finger print in that area.
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I think I understand.

So, the coin you posted was struck through because you can see the where it has affected the devices. If the wire left a dent in the die, the image would appear "behind" the devices on following strikes (like our coins).
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You got it.
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I have heard of strike throughs but I didn't know what they were. I call these inclusion strikes. Thanks for putting these together for me.
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