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!878 CC Morgan Bright Pl? But Some Rough Spots Need Advice

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 Posted 08/01/2010  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slumberjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is that depth measured? distance from reflected object to field surface?
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 Posted 08/01/2010  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How is that depth measured? distance from reflected object to field surface?


It's the distance at which you can read black-on-white 12pt type clearly on the coin.
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 Posted 08/01/2010  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slumberjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
first some pictures of the reverse reflectivity.

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Next I thought I was looking for a polishing mark on the left. Though I must admit I not certain where it is in the offical picture.

I looked at the VAMworld photos and copied the descriptions below
More confused now.

1878-CC VAM-29
Discovery November 2008

29 II 1 - B1g (Line in IB, Medium CC With One Dot ) (179) I-3 R-4
Obverse II 1 - Slanted die scratches in top of I and bottom of B in Liberty. Die chips at top and bottom inside of left 8 lower loop. (Also occurs VAM-1B)
Reverse B1g - Die Marker - Short vertical polishing line above left wreath ribbon.

The Line in IB obverse of VAM 1B paired with the exact reverse of VAM 20.

1878-CC VAM-1B Line in IB

1B(revised) II 1 #8729; B1g (Line in IB) I-2 R-4

Obverse II 1 - Slanted die scratches in top of I and bottom of B in Liberty. Die chips at top and bottom inside of left 8 lower loop. (Also occurs VAM-29)
Reverse B1g - Normal die of 1878 P Type B1 with a long center arrow shaft. Medium mint marks, II CC, at medium height with die chips in center of both CC's. Die marker - Curved die scratch in top of first wreath leaf cluster.

There are two die gouges in LIBERTY, one at the top of the I and one at the bottom right of the B. This variety is easy to detect under standard magnification and can be found in mint state from the GSA hoard.

Note - The VAM-1B obverse paired with the exact reverse of VAM-20 is assigned 1878-CC VAM-29.

1878-CC VAM-20 (Line in Eye, Medium CC with Dot, Denticle Impressions TA)
Revised 2010
20 II1 - B1g (Line in Eye, Medium CC with Dot, Denticle Impressions TA) I-2 R-5
Obverse II1 - Line in eye variety, Same as Vam-17
Reverse B1g - Medium spaced II CC mint marks at medium height. Die chip in center of left C. Raised dots of denticle impresstion between lower serifs of TA in STATES with two faint raised dots between middle of TA and at top of lower serif of A. Spacing between them match denticle spacing. Heavy vertical die polishing lines in feilds extending from points of letters and desigh elements.

NOTE: LVA stated in the letter that the polishing lines are and (EDS) tell as well as (NO DIE CRACK) by the denticle impresstion of TA


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More pictures to follow

And many thanks to all for input and even more light in the darkness of my ignorance. Ignorance is correctable, Stupidity is another matter.

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 Posted 08/01/2010  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slumberjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AS promised. I don't think VAM 29 if an exact match of VAM 20 reverse is needed as stated. TA is not right. S

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some other interesting features though. Is that a clash mark by the E

Does this are look doubled

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Very nice example of an MS63PL coin.. Bryan, that Morgan you posted, what would that grade be, MS65-66DMPL?Very sweet original well struck example...
I believe that year, 1881, was known for just that, nice strong strikes....
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