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Strange Mark On 1936 Dime

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 Posted 07/31/2010  8:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up two 1936 dimes in the junk box at my local dealer today.

I'm excited to say that one of them is a 1936 dot dime!

Unfortunately, it's not _the_ dot, but it is _a_ dot. Check it out just under the ribbons on the wreath.

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 Posted 07/31/2010  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmmm, where is the dot?
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 Posted 07/31/2010  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Check it out just under the ribbons on the wreath.


It's on the left coin, touching the elbow of the ribbon
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 Posted 08/02/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennylover1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to see a close-up of the coin on the right. (the portion around 8 o'clock)
Looks like Zoell Z-258-D?
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 Posted 08/02/2010  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 'DOT' looks like a map of Australia :)

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 Posted 08/02/2010  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, splatto, looks like a die chip.
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I'd like to see a close-up of the coin on the right. (the portion around 8 o'clock)
Looks like Zoell Z-258-D?


Is this a joke? I don't understand what Zoell Z-258-D is. I will take a closer picture of that coin but I'd love for you to elaborate more.


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The 'DOT' looks like a map of Australia :)


I know that's a joke :)


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Hi, splatto, looks like a die chip.


It seems to be something like that, but I haven't yet been able to determine if it's raised or if it's an impression. I will try to find out for you.
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 Posted 08/03/2010  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennylover1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wasn't meant as a joke.
A detail from your pic shows where to look - $10-$20 in that grade if dot is there.

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 Posted 08/03/2010  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Splatto,

Hans Zoell is one of the fathers of Canadian coin varieties. He last published in the 1970s but his book is still widely used today. Pennylover was simply stating that your coin looks like a variety he catalogued as Z-258-D
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Thanks laconic

hmm, not a bad find for the junk silver bin. I will get a picture up.
I searched for Zoell's book online and found one that claims to have succeeded it, a book by Pierre Charest.

Is there a place where information regarding the 1936 dime varieties from Zoell's book can be found online?
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 Posted 08/05/2010  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennylover1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is there a place where information regarding the 1936 dime varieties from Zoell's book can be found online?


Not that I know of. Charlton's owns the copyright on all his error and variety material and for whatever reason, has done virtually nothing with it. You can find the originals for sale on ebay once in a while. Pricey.
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Recently I noticed listed in the Canadian Coin News a 1936 Bar Variety and would like to see a picture of one ... or a description of what to look for. Thanks to anyone that can help.
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Some people think all the circulation 1936 dots are die pits. There are claims that the mint never intentionally released a 1936 circulation dot coin, and that the confusion between contingency represented by specimens and an extremely luckily placed die pit in the 1936 quarter, is with us to this day.

Charlton says that collectors didn't even widely notice the variety until the 1940s. By then, I would think, the existence of the specimens would have naturally lead people to think that the 1936 dot was intentional.

The 1936 25c bar is a die break. And apparently there is a die break through the dot variety, as well. That is one I haven't seen a pic of yet.


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Thanks for your information. I was able to find a pic of the die break and it is listed on ebay as a bar 1936 (25 cent pc). The bar seems to join the ribbons above where the dot would be. No known 10 cent pcs have been found but the bar (die break) is now listed for the dime and quarter. Have not been able to find a pic of the dime.
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 Posted 12/01/2010  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LG, welcome..
but what are you trying to say....the bar on the dime is known..
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pennylover's dot is also known as the "poor man's dot"
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