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1999-D Phantom MM

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I stopped at my local shop yesterday and bought an uncirculated 1999 set. As always I check the coins for errors before pulling them from the wrap and putting them in my albums. But I did not cut this one up as the Philly cent has the phantom D mint mark. My question is; 1. Should I leave this as a set?
2. Split up the set and leave the cent in cellophane?
3. have it slabbed?
I,m not an error collector. I will be selling the errors to fund my regular collection. Thanks WOLF
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 Posted 08/18/2010  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does this have a super light D mint mark or none at all?
None at all it would just become what looks like a Philadelphia minted coin.
Take it out of the package and who would know the difference?
If it has none at all and is amidst the other Denver coins then I would keep it as such and do whatever you want with it that way.
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Unless there is a known die variety for that yr/m.m coin
it would not really be worth a premium. Just a weak strike
or debris filled die. Leave it in the set if so.
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Ooops , had that backwards. Now I see it is a Phila coin in the P half of the set with a "phantom" D mint mark. I am not real familiar with this coin but I would still leave it together unless PCGS or another grader would recognize it as a variety all by itself. Got a picture of the cent?
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Wheezy, Would love to post a pic but do not have that capability. And it drives me nuts. Indian1, from my understanding their were a few years that the philly mint had dies for denver and instead of shipping etc they ground off the D mint mark to create a philly die. The grinding was not precise and their are philly cents with very week D's. I guess I'm trying to determine the best way to keep this as I believe it is a veriety and is an error and would like to sell it for normal coin money. WOLF
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I have a 1997 with a phantom "D" on it.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ent_1997.jpg
Very hard to see them though. You need to tilt the coin at a sharp angle to see them with a loupe.
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There were a few phantom D's during the '90's and I think they are a recognised error/variety and should stand alone in the collecting market.I have found a few but non in recent years.Congrats on your find.
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It wasn't the dies that were ground. They made the Denver Master hub and it had the raised mintmark on it. They used that hub to make the Denver Master Dies. Then they ground the mintmark off the master hub and used it to make the Philadelphia Master Dies.
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This is the first example I have heard of with a 1999 cent showing a phantom D outside the one I picked up back in 1999 - incidently in a mint set. That doesn't make them rare, it just means that one of the dies used for mint sets had the issue and very few people have noticed and reported it. There are also known examples of 1997 and 1998 cents with phantom mintmarks.

Back in the era (1997-2001) these were somewhat popular and brought some premium value. I doubt they have the same following now that they did back then.
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Thanks everyone for the input. WOLF
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