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1902 O Morgan VAM?

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 Posted 08/26/2010  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Check for polishing lines above O-N-E. If present, this will confirm VAM 18.


I don't see any polishing lines Oz, are they supposed to be horizontal or vertical? Just because they may not be there, doesn't really mean anything though does it?

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So, I guess my next question is if there are any more pics I can take that can further help to identify this coin or is it just going to end up being speculative?


The F in OF might have a "smoking gun" pickup at the bottom right of the letter, if it's there.
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 Posted 08/26/2010  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prlahr72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and a few more...

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 Posted 08/26/2010  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I'm stickin' with vam-45, and I'll drop out of this one.
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of pic

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OK, negative on the "smoking gun."

The problem, prlahr72, is not so much that the knowledge doesn't exist, but that the knowledge isn't disseminated. A certain VAMmer (the "Alan" we've mentioned) has done a definitive study of 1902-O, and his book will likely have the information you need to properly attribute the coin. But the book costs money, and regardless of the VAM, your coin isn't going to have additional value.

I do not argue the worthiness of compensating Alan for his hard work. That's intuitively right and proper. The question is, though, how much use will you derive from this work in the future? Is it a smart investment, given your particular interests?
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I agree, it is near date. Super Dave, if you would explain the difference between a normal date, near date and very near date I would appreciate it. If the coin has a doubled profile, these are VAM #'s to look at: Vams 8,12,26,30,35,40,44,47,48,51,53,56,61,64,65,71,73, 74, and 77.
If no doubled profile, these are the VAM #'s to look at: Vams 4,5,7,13,16,17,18,22,23 31,34,36,41,42,29,55,59 and 72.
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Vams 13 has a doubled 1-02. VAM 23 has a low date. VAM 41 has adoubled 1 below the upper cross bar.
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If nothing else it is very cool looking at this coin up close.
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Check to see if there is a scratch above O and a horizontal scratch above F.
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does not appear to be any scratches
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 Posted 08/26/2010  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time out... That looks like a normal date to me. I blew it up and it is not to the left of the 3rd denticle. It is normal-left IMO. Not yet near.

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That's the "official," remmy, but where the rubber meets the road it's a little more indistinct. It's one of the basic fallacies of VAMming as it is today - standards are not held precisely and equally; people are always declaring exceptions to the rule.

Strictly speaking, the coin being discussed here is a Normal Date. In reality, there are probably as many VAMs which call this location a Near Date.
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I think Alan would call it Normal. But that is just my opinion. I do not have my 02-O guide in front of me, but every 02-O I attributed based on the book had the proper location near/normal/far according to the image above.
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Date placement and the die crack from the neck to the top of the one and MM locations and the filled 2 are a direct matches to VAM 32..I'll post pictures once I get this #$%^machine working right..
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