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Could It Be A Real Double Headed Nickel?

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 Posted 08/29/2010  2:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add southerngent to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I was roll searching nickels as I often do on the weekends and came across this unusual nickel. I took a double take as the heads/heads has never come up before. So I thought, a prank coin, but no seam and the arrangement is 180% front to back like it would be with a tails. How could this happen? Are there others that have been found?

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 Posted 08/29/2010  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it isn't real. One side is a shell, the other an inserted smaller obverse milled and ground down. Look under high magnification, you will see a small gap near one rim at some place or another. Otherwise it is cast. This can't happen at the mint in the process.
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 Posted 08/29/2010  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say no as to a shell coin. If it was cast it is a pretty good job. On a seriuos note though, please explain to me how this could definately not happen at the mint. I.E.: An employee fooling around with 2 different obv. dies etc. ?
You can plainly see that both obv's are not from the same die. Just curious as I do not know if the press could be set up to accept
two obverse dies.
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 Posted 08/29/2010  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It can't happen because one side would be backwards.
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 Posted 08/29/2010  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yea, Duh. I'm tired :)
Regardless of the die rotations one would still be inverted.
Thanks, now I'm awake :)
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 Posted 08/29/2010  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southerngent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn! I looked at the edge on one of the sides and there is a seam all the way around the edge. Why would they do this with a nickel? I have seen it done with quarters and half dollars but a nickel. What's next, a penny or a dime?

And I do know that it's not possible but for a very short while I did dream just a bit. Darn!!
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 Posted 08/29/2010  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really good job then on an edge seam. I could not see it.
These people have way too much time on their hands.
There fun to own anyway. I would rather just find one in circ.
or go to the store to buy one than make it.
Gotta run, working on a merc. dime. Super glue should be dry by now "_
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 Posted 08/29/2010  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coins are made for magicians. You can buy them through magic shops. There are several"illusions"you can do with them. My son dabbles in magic so I gave him the one I found and he showed me several of the tricks(of course, he never told me how he did them!).
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 Posted 08/30/2010  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It can't happen because one side would be backwards.

That explanation makes no sense.

One problem you would have is that the hammer and anvil dies are shaped differently. The anvil die has a much longer neck because that die has to rise up an push the coin out of the collar after striking. If you put two hammer dies into the press, when you try to strike the coin the dies can't reach each other to strike the coin. And even if they could the lower die would not be able to push the coin out of the collar. If you put two anvil dies in the press you may have the opposite problem in that the upper die may not be able to retract enough to allow a planchet to enter the collar. And if it could, it you didn't lower the pressure by retracting the die even further, you run the risk of severe damage to the dies and maybe the press because at the bottom of the stroke the die faces would be wanting to pass through each other even without a planchet between them. Put a planchet there and you're going to break something.

Another reason varies depending on the time period and the type of press being used. During some periods the shape of the obv and reverse die bodies were different and an hammer die would not fit into the opening for an anvil die and vice versa.
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 Posted 01/26/2011  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cray looking coin though for sure
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 Posted 01/26/2011  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoeyZ76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is why I always call HEADS! on coin flips.....
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I'm glad Conder said that explanation made no sense...my head was hurting trying to figure out how anyone could think one side would be backwards.
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