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New 9/11 10 Year Anniversary Coin, Is It Offensive?

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 Posted 08/29/2010  10:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There is a new 10 year anniversary coin containing detachable World Trade Center and USS New York images that you can stand erect and use the medal as a base. They advertise that the metals is part of that taken from the ashes and rubble of the WTC.

I have searched the INTERNET to find out what company is connected to this offering but can't find anything. I'll have to wait until the commercial comes on again. While we don't know what the base medal is, it's advertised to be plated with a whole 14 milligrams of gold. I forget what the silver plating is for the Twin Towers and The USS New York. All of this for just $29.99; oh but its supposed to be $49.99.

I know that the US Mint turned some of the silver into ASE's and I can accept that; but minimal plating for metals from the ashes of solemn ground for commercial gain? Sorry, put all that metal into a fitting memorial.

Does anyone else find this offensive?
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 Posted 08/29/2010  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think it is minted by a private mint, not THE mint.
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 Posted 08/29/2010  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They advertise that the metals is part of that taken from the ashes and rubble of the WTC.
The chances of this being true are ridicules at best.

I see this as no difference from any other WTC coins that were "minted" after 9/11. All it is is someone trying to make a buck from a tragedy. And everyone that buys one supports them so they can do it again and again.

I'm just glad that there's not a 9/11 holiday because I don't want my kids to go to the mall in 20 years for a "9/11 Blowout Savings Event"
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 Posted 08/29/2010  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These things were sold soon after the tragic attack on the United States. Bad taste then, all they wanted to do was capitalize on our loss in my opinion. What is different now?
Just lets not ever forget how that day made us feel.
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 Posted 08/30/2010  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are going to purchase anything 9/11 related, get the silver medal that will be issued by the Mint later this year. $10 of the purchase price goes to the WTC Memorial. http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...icleId=13060
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 Posted 08/30/2010  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twincam_04 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
10 years already? man time flies... oh wait, I'm just getting OLD

do you remember where you were when it happened?

i was at work, radio on .. heard what was going on, went to break room, turned on tv.. watched it all take place- said a few choice words to the owner when he came to find out why I was in the break room instead of working- once he saw what was going on, all was forgiven

a tragic time in the history of the USA

i will look into the US Mint set, personally i'll stay away from the profiteers
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 Posted 08/30/2010  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zombieswat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
twincam: I will remember till I die where I was and what happened on 9/11/01: I'm in my mid 20s now, so I got to tenth grade history class to find the TV in the corner of the ceiling on, probably nbc news or whatever, my teacher softly crying, and a very awkward and unusual silence in my classroom. We spent the entire class period watching the news, my teacher cried the entire time, while our pubescent minds barely grasped what was happening and how it would change our country. The rest of that day was a little sureal, the rest of that week and month was too for that matter.
I will almost definately be buying one of those 9/11 memorial medals if I can spare $50 and will appreciate it greatly.

On a side note, I DO NOT want to make this political [ Then why did you do it? ~ Staff Edit ]
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 Posted 08/30/2010  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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10 years already? man time flies... oh wait, I'm just getting OLD

Not that old. The attack was in September 2001; seems this piece (coin, medal, gimmick, whatever) was issued to commemorate the 9th anniversary. The description sounds like that of a piece "from" the Cook Islands or so. Don't think there is anything offensive about the coin or "coin" itself - but this part about the material being (partly) from the site is questionable at the very least.

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 Posted 08/31/2010  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one of those "gray" areas (as opposed to black-and-white).

I totally agree with those who oppose the commercialization of tragedy, heck, I oppose the commercialization of anything. On the other hand these events need to be remembered. Nobody opposes WWII commemorative coins, they are much more common in Europe than in the US. There's been a number of countries who issued WTC coins for some kind of anniversaries. I don't find anything wrong with that.
Of course, one should question the source and the motive behind any memorabilia. If there's a big gap between the cost and the price - who's getting the profit!
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 Posted 08/31/2010  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not call it a coin. It has two parts that can be removed to make the towers stand up. If it's not made by the mint and not worth any value why buy it? It seems like a stupid secret Santa you would get at an office party. It goes on the desk for a few months then into the junk drawer.
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 Posted 11/04/2010  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PJC1226 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin you are referring to is made by the 'National Collectors Mint'. These people are not connected with the united states mint.

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It's a simple choice: buy it or don't. I'm not. And I ran the TV in my classroom all day when it happened, but I managed to wait until I got home before I wept.

You could easily make a case for this pop-up piece of metal being offensive, but consider all the videos and table-top books and other commercial items created to invoke memories of all the operations involving soldiers and citizens who died tragically. "In Cold Blood" comes to mind - I watched the movie, but when I tried the read Capote's book, I made it about half-way through before I realized that I'd had enough of reading about criminal killers and tossed it aside. It wasn't the book itself that was offensive - it was the minute chronicling by Capote of those two deviants whom it is said that he befriended to be able to interview before they were hanged.

"National Collectors Mint"? The name itself is offensive to me. Do you buy comic books and magazines that have "Collector's Edition" printed across the front cover to add them to your collection? You'll love this pop-up item, then, which has all the panache of a happy meal and its included trinkets.

carmykle, I'm not overly offended by this offering, but I'd agree that there's probably a better way to memorialize the event. What, I don't know - but probably not by something I can easily hold in my hand. Maybe my own memories are enough. Thanks for the opportunity for discussion of this tragic event.
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they have made those things every year and they keep saying how rare and all that stuff they are every year. Its all a gimmick made by National Collectors Mint and if you read the site its not pure silver or anything like the Mint would make. This is what it says
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The skyline of the Twin Towers and the silhouette of the U.S.S. New York, clad in a total 14 mg .999 pure silver actually recovered from the vaults beneath the ashes of Ground Zero, are inset with a jeweler's precision, rising up into a 3-Dimensional sculpture. When the shrinking supply of silver from Ground Zero is finished, this striking will end forever, so there is a strict limit of 5 per order.
so its just metal with 14mg of silver covering the coin. Pretty much the same thing as a necklace with gold over silver, it just has a thin layer of gold over it to make it look like real gold

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I have searched the INTERNET to find out what company is connected to this offering but can't find anything.

https://www.911anniversaryproof.com/?mid=993011


whether its offensive is a personal opinion that you have to think, this is and always be a hot bed of emotions for Americans. It was said when PCGS slabbed the ASE's that were taken from the vaults that it was Blood money and there were people that would not buy them because of the marketing behind them and people trying to make money off such a tragic event
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 Posted 11/04/2010  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with GO.Even though I'm from Canada,don't think this tragedy didn't effect us too.(I personally wouldn't buy any of that junk)I watch the memorial services every year on T.V. and my heart goes out to the families of the victims left behind to try and cope.Sorry if I offened anyone,I'm just spouting off. I remember very well where I was on that day and what my plans were!

LONG LIVE THE U.S.A.
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yeah I guess I should have said a hot bed of emotions for people around the world instead of just Americans. I remember where I was also and what I was doing. I was watching the morning show on CBS (I think) and they had the WTC in the backdrop and I saw the first plane hit before they ever mentioned it. I first thought the pilot must have had a heart attack or something until the second one hit then I knew something was very wrong. My daughter was less than a year old and I remember going and getting her out of bed and just holding her while the details unfolded. I also remember how nice everyone was to everyone else and how patriotic everyone was at that time and thinking how shameful it is that a tragedy like this had to happen for everyone to actually treat others the way they should be doing on a daily basis. I know crime dropped a considerable amount around here and it probably did around the country. I bet family members called other family members they hadn't talked to in years also because they knew something like this could have happened to one of them and they should be thankful they still had each other
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I remember that day, as do a LOT of people I know up here (almost everyone I know in fact) clearly, that day watching it all play out on TV, in shock and disbelief, and in grief for everyone there from a lot of people up here. People were all very sober and quiet here. I think the shock still hasn't worn off, it's all so incomprehensible.

As to a coin commemorating that day and all those people lost and those left behind, those who worked the sites forever, everyone forever changed, well, I personally see nothing wrong with a Commemorative coin coming from and with good intentions, similar to coins Commemorating our Veterans, FOR our Veterans memories. A sort of Lest We Forget symbol marking incredible events and losses, in memory of those people and events.

It also all depends A LOT! in my mind, who is making and offering the coins and for what purpose or significance. Intentions and purpose, and from who they come, are everything. If any those things "ain't right" then it don't feel right for me to buy or own one.
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