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Switching To Low-Budget Collecting In A Declining Economy

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 Posted 09/05/2010  6:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 3stooges to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
We're living on a shoestring budget, so all spending has been cut severely. Aside from small lots of circ 90 percent as economic insurance, I can do very little with collector coins.

Fortunately, there are a lot of low-priced options. I like Canadian nickels and 5-cent silvers along with some other world coins. As for U.S., my options are pretty limited. about the most I could afford these days are Seated dimes and Barber quarters in the F to VF range. How has Great Depression II affected your collecting activities?
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 Posted 09/05/2010  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buzzard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am using this time of tight money to focus my collection. I have been selling most of my lower grade coins and using a small portion of the proceeds to buy a select few higher grade coins. It keeps me engaged and still learning about coins even as I take money out of my collection.

I also have been developing a couple of lower budget series that still reflect my new interest in higher grade, more focused collecting. Ikes, World War II nickels, and a few foreign series are the coins that I have been focusing on lately.
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 Posted 09/06/2010  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best strategy is to limit your budget, then look for ANY coin that takes your fancy, the main attractant being value for money. I say any coin, because I now collect anything except NCLT. Ancients milled medieval and modern world coins as well as from Oz. That has been my strategy since I started re building my collection, after selling my first collection as the deposit on a house, way back in 1973, when I was married.

That way, you get to keep your interests going. My current collection is now worth more that the first one, and instead of a hundred or so coins in it, I now have about 3000 coins. And I have learned one heck of a lot on the way, and met some very interesting folks, who share what has become a lifelong passion for me.
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 Posted 09/06/2010  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't see any problems here. There are numerous ways to continue collecting coins.
1. Rob a bank for all coins. Look through them, donate the rest to the Salvation Army and take a tax right off.
2. Visit lots of people and check behind the cusions of their furniture for coins.
3. Adopt a lot of kids, put them all to work so you can make more money to buy more coins.
4. Rob a coin store.
5. Stop collecting coins and switch to Beanie Babies. Now at a rock bottom price range.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it's a down economy, but there's a lining to that cloud made of more than mere bullion value!

You probably have a better chance now of getting better grades at affordable prices than you have ever before, as folks who need to convert unload their holdings. For several years we've been seeing phenomenal stuff come available on the market because of hardship; those who are able to stay in the game on certain levels are snapping up bargains. Even better for Darksiders: American collectors usually part with their foreign betters before their US.

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 Posted 09/07/2010  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How has Great Depression II affected your collecting activities?


Not at all. I was poor to begin with.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of you guys are seriously out of touch with the reality of a booming economy. You need to turn off Fox News and switch to CNN. The economy is growing by leaps and bounds. I have heard the financial wizards of our current political administrations say so. Our Congress also is aware of it. Why else would they be spending money like it is going out of style?
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 Posted 09/07/2010  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zeewool, you must live in a different country. In my country, my local and national governments have been pretty lucid about the very bad economic situation--our state has done an incredible job of belt-tightening in fact.

Over here, it's the radicals who are distorting everything in order to restore a conservative oligarchy to power (you see they feel threatened by efforts to support the middle and working-classes in my country, including letting tax cuts for the super-rich expire).
There's even a bunch of nutters who are paid by millionaires to make bogus claims in the media 24/7, it's really unfortunate. (Some of my compatriots have short memories.)

I sincerely hope things get better for both our countries, but I'm guessing you and I both have become cynics.

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 Posted 09/08/2010  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We are rather more fortunate in Oz. The inflation rate is about 3%, the economy is growing at about 3%, and the unemployment rate is about 5%.

The total sovereign debt to gross domestic product ratio is about 14%. The same ratio for the U.S. is about 80%.

However, to say that we are more hard working than the average American is wrong; the reality is that we are about the same. The difference is that Oz. is still exporting huge amounts minerals, mainly to China. The main ones are coal, iron ore, gold, aliminium, nickel, copper, aluminium, zinc, diamonds and for this year, wheat. There has been poor wheat harvests in other parts of the Planet, but Oz. is producing bumper crops. The temptation is to become a lazy country, and employ most people in service industries.

Like America, we have foolishly exported our manufacturing industries to China, and a lot of our high tech. industries are also being exported. Crazy.

America used to have lots of what was known as 'know how'. So did Australia to a lesser extent. We are trying to export that, too.
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 Posted 09/08/2010  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not cynical SCS, but I can be very sarcastic with a smile on my face at times. (There really is a difference). I know that times are tough for a lot of folks right now, and I seem to have temporarily misplaced my rose colored glasses.
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Don't fret sel_, you folks down under are in good shape. No need to panic until you hear terms like 'bailouts' and 'stimulus packages' being tossed about.
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 Posted 09/08/2010  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are lots of ways to still collect even on a tight budget.
1. Don't insist on top grade wonder coins. Nice XF and AU coins are very attractive and cost a fraction of the MS-whatever coins.
2. Foreign coins are very cheap compared to US. You can build a large collection in high grade out of dealers junk boxes or poundage. Collect the world by type if you want and there are thousands of coins you can add to your collection for a few dollars each.
3. Switch to a cheaper series Jefferson nickels, Roosevelt dimes, Franklin halves can be nice to collect and affordable even in MS as long as you stay away from the Full Step, Full Torch, and Full Bell lines nonsense. If the Franklins are too high in MS then go for AU (See #1)
4. Consider tokens, Civil War tokens are still affordable in XF to AU and you can build a very large collection. You could probably spend the rest of your life collecting them. Other possibilities are sales tax tokens, ration tokens, or another choice for a long lasting large collection would be coal scrip.
5. Then there are world tokens as well. Canadian as a lot of pre-confederation tokens, Britain has the 18th century Conder tokens, and the 19th century 1811 to 1820 period tokens. These tokens are very reasonable, but the books can be costly. Germany has the municipal notgeld tokens of the 1916 to 1922 period Over 600 issuers and over 2000 different pieces. Some are costly but a lot of them can be purchased for under $10 each. The problem is finding them.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprucansailor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was skimming though one of the price guides and it looks like you can get most Barber dimes in Fine or so condition for a few bucks. IIRC the most expensive one was about 155 dollars.

I can not speak to the availability of this series because I do not activley collect them. Yet. Just expounding on your post. (I forgot to reread the OP) LOL
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09/11/2010 5:53 pm
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I still find a lot of good stuff searching bank rolls. Cents and nickels are fun and errors and varieties abound. You don't need to buy boxes,just get $10 worth of rolls and keep the good stuff and recycle the rest. It's cheap fun and there are still treasures out there(I got a full roll of steel pennies just last week).
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Sprucansailor, how old is your price guide, because off the top of my head I can think of 3 Barber dimes that are going to be at least $200+ in F, not including the super rare 1894S.
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All of you guys are seriously out of touch with the reality of a booming economy. You need to turn off Fox News and switch to CNN. The economy is growing by leaps and bounds. I have heard the financial wizards of our current political administrations say so. Our Congress also is aware of it. Why else would they be spending money like it is going out of style?


Oddly enough your not far from the truth. Recently on PBS TV they have been running a story about the great depression of 1929. One of the items noted was how the newsmedia manipulated the economy and the stock market. Reporters were paid to say a stock was a fantastic investment so those that did the paying could just wait for the reactions of people running out to buy and then they'ld sell.
Things are really not that much different to day. Our newmedia blasts how bad the economy is and people run out and pull money out of the stock market again. They stop buying new cars. They stop going on vacations. They stop spening on hobbies such as coin collecting so the prices of coins drops just as stocks in the stock market.
Not sure about where you live but out of all the Weather stations around me their predictions of not only tomorrow are usually wrong, but in many instances they are wrong about what is going on even now. For example a little while ago several stations showed our area covered with clouds. I look outside and get blinded by the Sun.
If you go by our news media for coin collecting they would probably say Beanie Babies are a better investment.
UNFORTUATELY the greater quantity of people that watch such garbage on TV or the Radio think it's real. If YOU do, buy a book called 1984.
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