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Bedrock of the Community
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One of the finest coins I've found searching. BLAZING luster!   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Thad,
it's truely amzing to find coins like this in circulation, the Zincs are so often environmentally damaged that they in reality are much harder than the wheats to assemble a quality set in.
This coin if not for the major hit on the steps "the true focal point of the reverse" would grade very high.
MS-63 Red
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Bedrock of the Community
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Don't be afraid to guess.....I disagree with metalman and you can too.  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Hmmm...I'll take a stab at it...
I'll go with MS66RD.
The obverse is just immaculate! I don't think the hit on the steps, the spot on the left side of the Memorial and the small hit on the rim above the first S in STATES would bring this down any lower than MS66. I think the big pics are making these seem worse than they really are.
Nice find! Most of these older Zincolns are just a mess after 20+ years! This one probably landed in someone's penny jar in 1984 and there it sat until someone just recently cashed in all those pennies.
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I disagree with metalman and you can too. I'm pretty sure it won't be the last time we will have diffing opinions Thad that's what makes this hobby and especially grading so much fun! The hit is over half the height of the steps and almost dead center. the hit on the steps was the first thing I saw when I viewed the reverse, well maybe that's because it's the first place I look?  The hit however is not the only thing I see just the only thing I mentioned in my first post. I will let a few others take a shot at the coin.  |
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Indeed my friend, indeed!  I didn't say I strongly disagree, I just think you were too harsh on the hit, 7 pts is a lot. That reverse hit really rains on the parade but the rest of the coin is great. Also, the luster in hand almost requires sunglasses. It's a very bright coin. That kind of luster holds a serious advantage with the TPG's. Hey, it'd be great for a Whitman!  |
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El Salvador
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While looking back I go with + VF30
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before reading everyone else opinion I said Ms-65. I hope the VF-30 was a joke lol
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That coin is crazy!
MS66RD
VF30, C'mon!
swcoin.ecrater.com
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won't make 66 MS-65 No trace of wear barely noticeable blemishes. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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IMO this coin would easily grade MS-65 at any TPG. The reverse hit would prevent it from making 66, it's too deep. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I concur with MS-65RD, it is almost impossible to find an early 80s Zincoln with no zinc zits at all  |
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I love a challenge can anyone show me any known standard ,ana,pcgs,photograde any published standard which would allow this coin to be graded as a 65? Thad I hope you know already that I think the coin is really a great example for a zincoln and my questions are not meant to diminish it in any way, all I am relly trying to do is find out how the coin was graded? was it intense feelings, personal opinion or based on a technical scale? I have at least 26 rolls of coins which would benefit from this coin making a 65, each of the coins in those rolls has some defect that technically keep them as 63's, with may be a 64 or two thrown in based on a technical highly regarded companies standard. so what do you say can we have this conversation?  |
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I was completely wrong with me MS65
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09/16/2010 7:29 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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was it intense feelings, personal opinion or based on a technical scale?
All of the above after looking at perhaps several thousand and checking photos of 66 and 67 coins on HA.com....in fact, every photo on ha.com. LOL Sadly, nobody has a 65 graded so there's no direct comparison. Nonetheless, I've gotten pretty good at determining what will make a 65 based on blemishes and what will not. The 65 grade is a lot easier to make then most people would think. A few little hits or spots won't keep a coin out of the grade if it has blazing luster. As you should be well aware, this is a very tough issue. The vast majority have hits, spots and strike issues. While this is not the same issue, what do you think this coin grades?   Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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a non emotional attachment to a coin is one of the reason that the TPG's are viewed as more reliable than the average collector, the person viewing the coin does not know the submitter, and has never seen the coin prior to the 2 seconds that it is viewed to grade. that emotional connection to the coin is also IMHO the place where raw coins lose value when in a collectors collection. Thad I understand how a person developes an eye for coins and an attachment that goes beyond the technical values after viewing thousands of coins and tossing most if not all into a return pile week after week and month after month until you find a coin such as your original thread starter coin here. |
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Posted 09/13/2010 8:51 pm
