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1984-D Lincolns - 4 Coins To Grade

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For coins A,B, C and D, please provide a grade.


1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade

1984-D-Lincolns---4-Coins-To-Grade
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Dont' be afraid folks....this is just for fun and learning. Just give the coins your opinion, there's no right or wrong. This is how we all learn. :)
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Well.. I'll give it a try...
Coin A- gas bubbles, carbon spots, rub on Lincolns face-still a MS-62 coin
Coin B- carbon spot and die crack on reverse,a little better coin-MS-63
Coin C- pretty nice one, well stuck, finger print brings it down to MS-62
Coin D- Nice Lincoln, lightly stuck, all mushy details, but still a MS-64 coin...

Just my opinion, I'm not the best grader.
Coins change quite a bit when you have them in hand.
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A) MS60, distracting staining and spotting along with typical bubbly planchet
B) MS63, very nice planchet surfaces and probably merits a technical grade of 65 if not for the staining/spotting
C) MS62, another above average planchet but obverse is covered in fingerprints
D) MS65+, the real gem of the group and I did not need to see the PCGS slab to know that I admit I peeked at the grade but I decided on 65+ before I peeked
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Great guesses so far!

Where's Rick?
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I'm still far too new to attempt to grade them, but I am watching this thread closely. I'm also pulling all the best 83 thru 88 d-mints I find during my searches.
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A) MS61
B) MS63
C) MS62
D) MS66

I only search rolls occasionally and even then it is usually only a couple at a time. I admit I would have thrown the first three back due to the distracting spotting/staining. Do you save these MS mid-80's dates even if they look like that? Or did you only save these for the sake of this thread?

I'm not baggin' on your coins, I'm just wondering if I ought to be saving these instead of throwing them back. Are these worth saving?
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Im watching, and waiting. I'm never far away from a lincoln grade thread! :-))
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Stop lurking and join the party!

This is how we all learn.....discussion is good.
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I'll toss in a little more....I found all amongst circulated coins.

These are pulls from my friends 25+ year old coin hoard. To digress, it's TRULY an unsearched stash (till now). At the end of each day he'd toss his pocket change into giant, glass bottles. It's been a blast searching, I even found a MS-62/63 1999 WAM.
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I'm having an issue with the last one. The tie, coat, and cheek show either reflections of light or is that wear? But then I see it is slabbed and ask myself why is everyone grading it so well? The obverse has a strange rim too. So, what (if anything) do we have here? I really am not very knowledgeable but I see something...broad strike? Collar issue? Or do I just see a trip to the eye doctor in my future?
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Ok Thad, let try this the first three are ungradeable due to environmental damage and the fourth is already graded.

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The last one looks weird. Is it a weak strike?
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The 80's were notorious for weak strike coins , mostly caused by worn dies.this partcular date and mint,

5,569,238,906coins with just over 3 million proofs its not suprising we see circulation strike coins like this.
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Thanks. It almost looks fake.
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OK, I'll let loose my opinions now that a bunch of people have guessed. Yes, the last coin is a PCGS from ha.com.

COIN A - Environmental damage, a few light corrosion spots. Any TPG would reject this coin. The large black spot on the portrait is from the mint, a large carbon spot from mint processing. I would grade it as MS-60, there's just too many distractions and it makes for a very unappealing coin.

COIN B - What a shame! It was a nice planceht and the coin is virtually hit-free. Once again, common with this issue, black mint carbon spots all over it. There's no corrosion, those are all stains that I contend come from mint processing. The spotting is very distracting once again, so I'd grade this one MS-62.

COIN C - Hard to tell from the pictures, but this is an AU coin. When you look at it closely, you can see rub on the obverse high points. There is also just a hair of rub on the reverse cornice. Additionally, it's fairly obvious the coin has been handled a lot with multiple fingerprints showing on the obverse. There are a couple spots of light corrosion, so it would be ungradable with a TPG. I would grade this as AU-50.

COIN D - PCGS MS-66. I picked this coin because the photo shows what appears to be rubs on the obverse portrait, the hair, cheek and jaw. Those are obviously not wear rubs, but strike issues. The obverse has numerous distractions, but not enough to drop it to 65. I'm sure everyone is wondering how this coin graded so high....one simple answer....LUSTER. Also, it's virtually hit-free, the reverse is almost perfect. Combine that with blazing luster and a TPG grader will be impressed. It also goes to show that a coin doesn't have to be "flawless" to still get a 66 TPG grade.
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