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 Posted 09/30/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's funny! True! You can not get these rolls anywhere else for such a rip off price as this!
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 Posted 10/01/2010  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think what I hate more than these shows is those commercials that push those gold covered Buffalo coins or the WTC coins doing everything but claiming they are pure precious metal all the way through.

Once again LISTEN to the ads and read what is on the screen They NEVER claim they are pure precious metal all the way through. The ones that always bothered me were the ones where the say they are "thickly layered with 100 mils of pure silver". That is because they term mil which means thousandth, and redefined it for their own purposes to be a contraction for millionths and they do not disclose that redefinition. 100 mils is 1/10 of an inch a plating layer but their plating layer was only 1/10,000 of an inch thick.
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 Posted 10/01/2010  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now tell me how or why the government lets them say things like that.

Because when they are selling special wrappers at a premium,
who are they to say that private businesses can't sell their Quarters
in (their own) special wrappers for a (larger) premium?


All CSN (and others) do is profit off the uninformed
who don't bother to shop around for a better deal.

Most specifically, the still-large portion of the older generation
who do not use the Internet. The last generation that the "Age of
Information" has not reached. The last generation that tends to take
what salespeople say at face value.

This raises many questions concerning the long-term viability
of hard-sell TV marketing once the last of the "non-Internet"
generation passes.
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 Posted 10/01/2010  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The last generation that tends to take what salespeople say at face value. This raises many questions concerning the long-term viability of hard-sell TV marketing once the last of the "non-Internet"
generation passes.

Interesting observations. Besides coins, there are scores of CTV channels devoted to "legal" scamming of collectables, playing on impulsive buying habits. I do think they're targeting a demographic, as are some ebay sellers who take in naive buyers who don't know how to use Google. I've trained my relatives to Google first--but this place is better than Google.
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10/01/2010 1:26 pm
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 Posted 10/01/2010  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And once again we get back to first rule of coin collecting:

Educate yourself. If you're smart, you know you can get National Park Quarters at face value in many other places and will see through this scam.
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 Posted 10/02/2010  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I've trained my relatives to Google first.

Like it says on the upper left,
"Education is the key to collector success"

(so uneducated buying would be the key to collector failure!)
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 Posted 10/02/2010  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I watch these Heartless Lying CONARTISTS straight out lie to people with not even a pause in their voice. They dupe people into thinking they are buying rare and obsolete coins. I heard the voice of this little old lady who called in to thank them for a set of UNC State Hood Quarters that she was buying for her grand kids when they get older. So they could cash it in and have something for themselves. Ohh yea the man says in his soul less voice. That's a great idea. Your buying one of the best investments right here that this little bit of money can buy. The coins were over $300 closer to $400 actually. Then she said well it is a little steep for me but I borrowed against my mortgage money Ill just worry about it later. The guy said you wont be upset this is a blah blah blah lie lie lie. I can't figure out how their able to do the things they do. Common Circulated Morgans for $99. I mean their seems to be no end to what they wont do to cheat you out of your money. My heart just drops as I watch the counter just keep goin up or down, depending on if its coins left or amount sold. So many people getting ripped off. $20 for a UNC President Coin because it comes in a $1.50 print out. isn't some one watching this happen. Its wrong very wrong.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andrewjconners to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They don't stop on HSN either.. $60.00 for a roll of P & D Yellow Stone national park quarters.. makes me sick
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 Posted 10/19/2010  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mackspane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No doubt Bruce, these things INFURIATE me, especially when they dupe friends and family who may think they're getting their loved one some special present, and believe their loved one is going to be excited about it. My 80 year old Mom nearly succumbed to such object fraud when she went ahead and bought one of those replica Gold Indian Heads. Luckily I found out about it before we accepted delivery, so it went straight back to the fools. Not only did we get OUR money back, but the "specialty mint" (yeah, their "specialty" is ripping off the general public) ended up footing the bill for shipping. It's not like the $3.99 for shipping is going to break them, but if everyone did it, maybe it would, right? Heh... wouldn't it be an incredible coincidence if everyone who read this ordered the Max # of coins allowed or however many they can afford, then refused delivery, entitling them to a full refund through the credit card company? At their prices, it STILL probably wouldn't make a dent in their profits. Oh well.

In all seriousness, however, a good RoT is to never buy ANY coins sold on television, PERIOD! Full Stop. After the episode with my Mom, I've taken to telling this RoT to ANYONE and everyone I know, and especially those who might, at some point, be in a position where they would give me a gift.

So, Bruce, you are far from alone. Actually, my hypothetical coincidence from above fits something Jello Biafra (former lead singer for the Dead Kennedy's) said on one of his "spoken word" albums. He said: "in this day and age, creative crime is not only good for the soul, but is necessary" (he said this about his run for mayor of San Francisco). Since most of these fake mints and shopping network type companies both tend to use the US Postal Service for delivery AND are basically siphoning profits off of the US Mint, forcing them to give money BACK to the government seems like the RIGHT thing to do, doesn't it?
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