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Rre-Post (Photo Bucket) 1884-O Morgan VAM?

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 Posted 10/11/2010  7:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add troy1025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just started learning about VAM, so I got looking at my morgans and saw a very small raised spot on the coin. Since I know nothing about types, I turn to you. As I said the metal is raised, it is not scratched into the coin. What do you think?

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums...1025/mg1.jpg
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums...1025/mg2.jpg
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 Posted 10/11/2010  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see that it is an Orleans strike.....The year might help someone identify the VAM, and in turn identify the lump.

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Could you please post a picture of the other side of the coin Troy?
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 Posted 10/11/2010  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add troy1025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go!

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 Posted 10/11/2010  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a very far date and an oval O to me.....I'll guess VAM 15.....That is very far from conclusive though Troy. Eventually, some real vammers will be along who will do a much better job of identifying it, and will possibly tell you what that lump is also.
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 Posted 10/11/2010  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't looked at the VAM yet but that lump is made from the bonnet "V" during a clashing of the dies together without a coin planchet inserted between the dies. You may also see Liberty's lips and nose along the inside of the wreath on L/S of coin. I believe the 1884-O also may have a transposed E from LIBERTY under the tailfeathers. You may have to look at several angles. They are hard to see sometimes. nlp
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 Posted 10/11/2010  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I do believe that you are correct Nip.

Troy, does it look like this pretty blue coin that SuperDave posted recently?

https://goccf.com/t/67618&whichpage=5





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 Posted 10/11/2010  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add troy1025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure is the same on the blue coin, I have 4 1884-o morgans all with the same "defect" in various stages
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 Posted 10/11/2010  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive Nip. Good eye.

Now, we will have to wait and see if anyone can identify the variety from those pictures. (Your pictures are pretty crummy Troy). Are you using a scanner or a phone camera or what? Are all four of these coins in similar condition?
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 Posted 10/11/2010  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well you can rule out the E clash on this one. That one has a clash coming out of the bonnet that is stronger then the E and this one is not it.

Larger photos of just the coin would be a help, Zee you have it right as a far date but I would like a larger pic for anything more than that.
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Yeah the are in the same condition, I am using a olympus 14mb fe camera. the problem is I have no good lighting. I may use photobucket due to the fact I have to cut them down from 2-3mb to 90kb that might help. I'll try some other ways, check out the threads and re-post some better pics.
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 Posted 10/12/2010  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where is the raised metal at exactly on the coin? is it by the wreath, on the morgans nose, on the eagles leg? Where exactly since you did not say.
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 Posted 10/12/2010  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add troy1025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry duh! the raised metal is right wreath between the wreath and wing.
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Okay, so I am hanging with vam-15 based on what I 'think' I see in the date and mm placements. You guys are not going to let me have the final word on this are you?
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Zee, with out better pic's I am not sure. If I was even 90% I would take a stab at it but I am not close too that.

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close up pics are needed..even for VAM 15 which looks good
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Will do!
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