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Dahlonega Quarter Eagles

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 Posted 10/15/2010  6:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add huntercav to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am looking for any info members may have regarding Dahlonega quarter eagles from the 1840s. I am thinking about buying a 42 in NGC AU 53. The strike is actually pretty good on this coin but what is making me hold back is the coloration of the coin.

The images the dealer has sent look too "yellow" if that is possible for a gold coin. It looks almost unnatural. I was expecting more of a green gold or orange gold tone.

Images I've checked from DWN and HA also point to a darker toning. Is the color of the coin I may buy the result of how the dealer has imaged the coin, or the result of a recent dipping?

Any advice/info will be greatly appreciated
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 Posted 10/15/2010  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best thing to do is to POST THE PICTURES! :-)
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^^agreed
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 Posted 10/15/2010  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Color/luster are very hard to determine with pictures. The images in some Heritage and Teletrade auctions have been enhanced IMHO. A 1842-D in AU53 has got to be very expensive and you should have a return policy in place with the seller. Only buy a coin like that from a reputable seller by the way. $10,000 is a lot of money to anybody - be careful. These are great coins to own though, wish I could afford one right now.
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 Posted 10/16/2010  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add huntercav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some images...I hope.

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As far as having a return agreement in place, the dealer is reputable and we have agreed on a 5 day return policy. Seems fair to me....now to hammer out a price.
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 Posted 10/16/2010  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you've read Doug Winter's Dahlonega book you know that dipped and cleaned Dahlonega coins are more common than original examples. NGC and PCGS often grade these coins as long as the cleaning isn't too blatant. You will have to decide whether this coin has satisfactory eye appeal.
Please post pictures!
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I own a 44-D Half Eagle, would like to see the coins.
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Whoa, that coin looks just fine to me! I've seen worse Southern gold in TPG slabs; in fact, I once purchased an 1841-C quarter eagle in PCGS AU-50 that I returned because of its over-dipped brassy color. The color of this coin appears close to original. If you like the price I expect you will also like the coin. Wish I had one!

According to Winter in his 1997 book this coin is unknown in mint state (that may have changed since) and is extremely rare in AU grades. It is the second-rarest of all Dahlonega quarter eagles minted before 1853 (the 1840-D is scarcer). This NGC AU-53 should be well within the Condition Census. Winter also says the center reverse and eagle neck feathers are usually softly struck. This coin appears to be better-struck than most.

Let us know if you decide to buy; maybe then you can post some new photos. It looks like a great coin!
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 Posted 10/17/2010  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add huntercav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel the same way regarding the strike Jaobler. It is surprisingly sharp. The mark across Liberty's cheek may well be a mint made error that Winter talks about in an early die state. He describes it as a depression I think, these look more like Reeding Marks to me though.

After really looking at this coin for a few days I think I will go ahead with at least having it sent to me for a hands on inspection. At first I was against even doing that.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add huntercav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I did it and I am very pleased with the coin after it arrived. My concerns regarding the color of the coin were unwarranted. It has a warm, gold/orange hue to it, nothing like what the pictures from the company's website were like.
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The coin looks great to me. Go ahead and purchase it if you can afford it! It's way out of my price range.
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So I did purchase it czar and I am quite pleased with its overall appearance. It is on a road trip right now with a few other coins to see if they can pick up little green footballs.

As for the cost of it I may be crazy but I am now buying select coins with the plans of holding onto them for a long time and using them to build up money towards retirement. I just have little or no faith in 401Ks or IRAs surviving the tax man's greed. The more I can keep quietly and close at hand the better I feel.
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