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Valued Member
United States
459 Posts |
I'll jump in here also, I'm for sure a hoarder as I just keep getting more, no selling yet, or expected. As to favorites... The most recent one is always near the top of the list, but since each one is a story they are all like favorites to some degree. I also enjoy organizing them so each tidbit of information makes me re-examine stacks of coins looking for the new details. Your thread for example has already involved quite some time staring at 1882s through microscope looking for the repunched areas you've highlighted.
Thanks for sharing!
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
576 Posts |
Nybird, good luck on your searches! For the 1882 C-1 based doubling variety in question just take a short cut and look for the metal chip or die crack inside the C of Victoria. It's a marker I wasn't aware of until I visited the forum here. There are some collectors on here with a wealth of information and they're generous with it. I salute them.
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
yep we all do have our favorites. Mine is the micro D in 1881. Next to that are the full serif T's in 1876. Also the 9/9/9 in 1893, the 1859 9/6's both types. And then there are the..... Oh my. Back to my hoard, about 4000 last time I took a swag at the number.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
576 Posts |
Dan, you do have a lot of large cents! Interestingly, the third variety coin I picked up at the recent show was a micro D 1881. Only in VG, it's still a decent coin. Hmmm, full serif T's in 1876? I'll have to check for that one! Have a great week!
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Valued Member
Canada
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My "favs" are very similar to Dan ... as friends, the two of us have been on about the same page for a number of years now. I'm partial to the 9/6's & R2b, the quad 9 1893, and all of the weird 81's(the best year for varieties). Dan got me started on the 1876's, which I previously thought were vanilla coins. I've got about 5000 in my hoard with many scarce multiples.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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R2bR2c, you and Dan have impressive collections. I have to laugh about his reference to the 1876. I guess he obviously meant the Charlton's variety coinciding with the second A in Canada doubling. I thought he might be referring to the T in Cent on the year where the left serif is pointed and incomplete. After viewing over 25 here, scoping the big T, I think I finally get it. Have a good day!
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
Yes the T in VICTORIA. There are 3 different full serif T's. One was featured in this years Charlton.
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Valued Member
United States
459 Posts |
Hi Dan, Would those 3 1876 full serif Ts be: (1) with second A repunched in Canada, (2) With last A repunched in Gratia, and (3) No obvious As repunched?
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New Member
Canada
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R2bR2c - can you please supply full name of what "CCRS" is short for? There are us "relatively newbie" oldies out here who are just getting the hang of the internet. Thanks
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
nybird, yes those are the ones. Your collection seems to be coming along nicely!
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
576 Posts |
Seeing we have hoarders on here would they care to offer a variety count for a single favourite Victorian large cent variety in their collection? Some numbers could be a little scary. Would be interesting! I don't want to be nosy but a count on just one variety would be intriguing.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I give counts and populations on varieties all the time on CCRS. If the variety is in the new Charlton's, a count has already been done informally. Counts actually mean nothing unless it was arrived at by random selection of the coins in the "hoard". What variety are you looking at?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Okay. My favorite Victorian cent variety is an 1858 cent that has a fully intact reverse vine, as Wyon engraved it. Most 1858 cents have vine breaks at Leaf #7 (5 o'clock) and/or Leaf #13 (9 o'clock).
In my first book, The 1858 Cents of Provincial Canada, I based my published relative scarcity of the 1858 die varieties based on a random sample of 150 cents dated 1858. The sample found 4 different reverse dies (comprising 6 coins) with intact vines. All four of these dies made up 4% of the sample, meaning that only an estimated 1 in 25 cents dated 1858 have full vines.
Three of the four full vine reverse dies had all 16 leaf stems intact. One die had 15 intact stems, with the stem to Leaf #9 (6 o'clock) missing half of the stem. This very scarce die returned one example out of the 150 coin sample.
I have looked at many hundreds of 1858 cents since I wrote the book. My readers have looked at even more. It is my opinion that the original sample results hold very true for the entire 1858 population. If anything the full vine and one broken stem die is even scarcer than 1/150.
I put pictures of both types of 1858 full vine dies into the one cent variety section of the current Charlton catalog. Happy hunting.
Edited by bosox 10/20/2010 7:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Bosox, I'm impressed by your efforts! Interesting to note too that your original sampling has been upheld by the observations of your readers. I like the 1858's but their cost makes it a variety area that I'll likely not pursue much. Like some others on here, 1859 and 1881 are likely good choices to investigate as they're plentiful and very affordable. Your contributions to the latest Charlton's are appreciated. I sound like a whiner but I do wonder over the next five years what 1858 and other varieties will become standard in trends and thus followed by collectors. R2bR2c, I wasn't specifying any particular variety. I just wanted a little input as to what any one individual collector had in a favourite variety. For example, it'd be interesting to know in the case of Dan how many micro D 1881's he personally had. In your case, it'll obviously be something else. I just wish I had all the large cents I have sold over the years. I'll bet some folks got bargains! I'm coming to careful a little late in life.
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
I have around 8-10 Micro D's. Various grades of course. It's not so much hoarding as it is accumulating for research. I actually do off load a lot of Vickies over a year. In order to work on die identification on any given date you either have to have a reasonable sampling yourself or access to someone that does. In my case I am forturnate to have both. When we were kicking aroung what to add to the Charlton variety section we picked the most interesting varieties for each year. Clearly there are tons of others. For example, we only included 1 full serif T in 1876, but there are actually 3 of them. I also collect 1858's and 9/8's basesd on Turner varieties. I have about 60% completion of the 58's and about 90% on the 9/8's.
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