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 Posted 10/31/2010  8:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Which mint in your opinion makes better coins, the Canadian or the US Mint?
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 Posted 10/31/2010  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlackSheep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you define "better"?

Most attractive?
Most detailed?
Proofs?
Circulated?
Commemoratives?
Quality control?
etc.

If you were to do a compare and contrast of every sigle aspect of "better" I'm sure that they'd all balance out in the end. Both countries have beautiful coins and at the same time there are some that are quite pointless and downright ugly.
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10/31/2010 9:03 pm
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They both make great, but different coins. I think the RCM produces better looking coinage for the most part though.

That being said, I'm pretty sick of both countries base coinage right now. I think it's time for Canada to get away from the Maple Leaves/Beaver/Bluenose/Caribou coins, and for the US to get away from the Lincoln/Jefferson/Roosevelt/Washington coins. Just my opinion.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlackSheep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Americans love their dead presidents and Canadians love their wildlife. I don't believe that will happen in our lifetime. How long did it take to go away from the lady liberty monopoly?
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 Posted 10/31/2010  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I like the continuity of same designs, or elements of them, reigning forever. Maybe I just like the traditional and familiar as more comfy? I do really enjoy commemorative and anniversary type coins too, something new and exciting with some aspect of the past or present featured for awareness highlighted, like keeping the historically significant alive and remembered.

As a Canadian, I'm one of those "love our wildlife and animals" types so I like any of the animals.

I guess I don't see US vs Canadian as better or worse, just different. I don't know enough about how coins are minted, or metals, to really be able to recognize or comment on "quality" though.
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10/31/2010 9:26 pm
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 Posted 10/31/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
living royalty or dead presidents...
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Personally, I like the Canadian designs better. I'm getting tired of looking at the same dead presidents. The current designs have been on the U.S. coins way too long.
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How long did it take to go away from the lady liberty monopoly?


A long time.. but they changed them up every 25 years or so for the most part.

And I'm a fan of both the Canadian and American coins... and collect both :)
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 Posted 11/01/2010  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything should be taken into consideration when trying to determine if one mint produces better product then the next.
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personally, I prefer the U.S. coins because I know about them. and there's more learning materials on U.S. coins I the U.S.
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As I read it, the question is not about which country's coins are better, but which mints produce better products.

In a sense it is difficult to compare. Ideally, if you want to compare the output of two different mints, you have those mints produce the same coins for the same country, so all the technical details of the coins being compared (design, size, composition etc) are the same; the only variable is the mint facility. For the Canadian-American comparison, this hasn't occurred since the 1960s when some Canadian coins were struck in America; at that time, the American products were (in my opinion) superior. However, such a comparison would be impossible to arrange today because American mints don't produce coins for any other country except America anymore.

That being said, in my opinion the Canadian mints currently produce a technically superior product, on average, and have done so since the 1970s - though I think the Americans are catching up again.
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I'm one of those "love our wildlife and animals" types so I like any of the animals.
Me too--and that's what I like about current Canadian and Australian coins. I wish US coins could confine the politics to one side, using the reverse for more interesting subjects, such as endemic wildlife. National parks quarters are a start.

To my eyes, Canadian coins are struck better--which may be due to shorter die runs for a smaller population?
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11/01/2010 11:47 am
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In Canada there are two very different mints.

Ottawa produces high-end precious metal collector coins that are superior in every way to anything minted in the states and therefore a comparison is pointless.

Winnipeg uses state of the art plating technology that IMHO is greener and more efficient than US production on a per-coin basis, however there is one major difference in the quality of finished coins: our quarters, loonies and toonies are dumped into a large round metal cauldron (after minting) that stirs and dries them for a few minutes and reduces MS-65's to MS-60's. I think they call this burnishing. I call it ruining circulation coins and collector interest. I couldn't believe what I was seeing on the mint tour. I stood behind the glass and gasped while the rest of the tour moved on. I wish I could take a pic and post it here but they dont allow cameras on the mint tour. It looks a lot like this:


I think our 1 cent, 5 cent and 10 cents skip the burnishing/drying process and go straight to packaging, which would explain why they have those annoying water marks. The higher denoms come out scratched, dinged and with rim dents but happily no water marks.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Malibu, thats all good insider (inside the mint look) to know. Now I'm knowing some of the spots are mints water spots :( and other marks I see on newer coins that don't look as new as they should probably got them when they were being tumbled.

Tell me also, anyone if you can, when coins are being electroplated, is it possible for uneven depths of plating to show up on the coins? Like the plating looks pretty thin in spots and you can almost see the planchet colour showing underneath the plating?
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11/01/2010 6:40 pm
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DVCollector, the Centennial year 1967's animals are my favorites of course!
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