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 Posted 11/17/2010  01:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thanks to alot of help on resolution,,I think I learning to get better scans,,these EAGLES are FAKE,,COMMING from a unnamed source,,that studied these,,what do you think,,the extended hand almost fades into the coin,,could be wrong,,please comment

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 Posted 11/17/2010  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I should have not posted something as fakes,,Im not 100% sure of,,,should I expect a visit from the feds for just suggesting that?
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 Posted 11/17/2010  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that looks okay to me, its not that common for eagles to be faked. the hand might just be wear
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 Posted 11/17/2010  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see no indication that the coin is fake.

These images are much better than the 1966 dime images.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious, but wouldn't it be stupid to counterfeit a coin that's just worth a little over the price of bullion (and in this case probably a lot less). It's rather easy to check the weight and other specks to see if it is silver.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I still see nothing indicating that this coin is a fake...and carmykle is right - it should weigh in at exactly one ounce and it should be the exact same size as a normal silver eagle. If that fits, then it's not a fake.
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 Posted 11/18/2010  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you look at it you have to ask ?

Why does a coin that was never circulated or minted proof have such wear on the dress and face of the coin?
Someone must have handled it quite a bit for that wear ?

why does it look so old ?

The first fakes were " 1906 " we all luaghed and said why would someone do that for ?
the coin was " aged " chemically and the die was made to show wear on the coin.

Someone bought a 2009 fake silver off ebay
http://reviews.ebay.com/Fake-Americ...000012836577

no telling how many others dates have been fakes also.

To make a fake of that coin would be very profitable and not a ket date people would not suspect it

Cost to make a nickle based silver plated fake might be 50cents if that

If they faker can get the base metal and plating to be the same as a orginal eagles weight
He could dump thousands onto the market in a few months
he would wholesale them at 10$ each then the wholesalers relist them

At 19$ each people would buy them by the roll

If they weighed the same only time they would get noticed is when someone sent them to a refinery to be melted

as far as the one you have a fake ?
http://ezinearticles.com/?Silver-Ea...l&id=1073377

the drop test would work,
drop a real eagle and see how it sounds then drop the one you suspect is fake see how it sounds

If you really wanted to you could pass it on to the u.s mint for investigation




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 Posted 11/18/2010  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its also hard to believe that a silver eagle could spend a few years in circulation to get that wear on the dress and face, wouldnt someone have pulled it out for being silver ? wouldnt someone have set it aside for being different?

A faker in china may not have know they were not coins made for circulation and tried to add wear to the coin to make it look more natural
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 Posted 11/18/2010  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the suns ray by the dress look strange very very weak, unless its just the pic

its only worth melt if its real being circulated, id let it set in some lemon juice and see what happens to the color
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 Posted 11/18/2010  01:37 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May have been a pocket piece for a few years. Looks fine to me.
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 Posted 11/18/2010  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an example of a pocket coin that was pristine five years ago.

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 Posted 11/18/2010  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppertop, someone on the forum found an ASE in change, how could it not happen?
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 Posted 11/18/2010  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why does a coin that was never circulated or minted proof have such wear on the dress and face of the coin?

I don't see any wear on that coin, what I do see is patchy toning

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If they faker can get the base metal and plating to be the same as a original eagles weight

That is virtually impossible to do and keep the dimensions correct at the same time. The only other practical metal with an SG close to that of silver is lead and anyone who is a collector would never confuse a lead coin with a silver one.

I see absolutely nothing suspicious about this coin at all, it is just a common heavily toned Silver Eagle. As long as it weighs correct, then it is certainly genuine.
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 Posted 11/18/2010  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes,,coppercoins,,,the resoloution has changed my complete problem almost,,thanks again
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 Posted 11/18/2010  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the wear that I was refering to was on the breast area,
look at the one above some one posted and the one he thinks is fake ,
the lower portion of the bust is worn off the lines in the dress at the bottom of the breast are gone,
looks like the fake one that came from china with little detail in the bottom of the breast bust area
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 Posted 11/19/2010  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The local coin shop payed 22.00$ apiece,so I suppose all is well.
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