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1921 Chapman?

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I am new to this, and inherited some older coins recently. Quite a few are 1921 Morgan silver dollars. I have not collected coins since I was a child, and I need a little help. I was wondering what I should be looking for besides the berry count when trying to identify a chapman proof coin. Also my coins seem tainted and discolored, should I clean them? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cant upload my photos bc my file is too big. So I can email them or I'm them to someone if they are willing to look at them.


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DON'T clean them. Ever. Unless you want to ruin them and their value.
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Rebecca,

From coinfacts concerning the two proof versions of the 1921 Morgan:

Proof examples of this date are quite different from those of earlier dates. Two Proof versions of the 1921 Morgan dollar were struck, both apparently at the request of individuals outside the Mint.

The first version, known as the "Zerbe" Proof, was struck for the noted numismatist, Farran Zerbe, who supposedly had a fit when the new Silver Dollars of 1921 turned out to be a resurrection of the Morgan dollar type instead of the new Peace dollar type that he had promoted. The exact mintage is unknown but the figures bandied about in the past have ranged from a low of 20 to a high of 200. PCGS has certified 78 "Zerbe" Proofs, the finest of which have been 7 PR-66's. Breen noted that most of the "Zerbe" Proofs he had seen had been cleaned or scrubbed, but his experience conflicts with PCGS' findings (PCGS will not certify cleaned or impaired coins).

Breen offered some die characteristics of the Zerbe strikings, but be wary, as circulation strikes also exist from these dies:

"Obv. Small die scratch up to r. from left tip of serif of left upright of second you in UNUM to border. Left base of first 1 above center of dentil, r. base of second 1 slightly r. of left edge. Central details far sharper than on regular uncirculated pieces. Rev. Very faint recutting visible on left upright of T in UNITED. Horizontal die file marks plainly within ribbon bows and at left and right of them; vertical die file marks at inner berries nearest to left base of N and T in UNITED. Eagle's breast feathers unusually sharp. Brilliant proofs as in 1904 and earlier years, carelessly made..."

The second Proof version is the so-called "Chapman" Proof, named after the Philadelphia coin dealer, Henry Chapman, whose name appears on a Mint invoice (dated June 11, 1921) selling him "10 proof silver dollars 1921". For years, the mintage was thought to have been limited to only the ten coins, but now we know that additional "Chapman" Proofs were struck. PCGS alone has certified 40 examples, the finest of which is a single PR-66 that far outshines the 13 PR-64's that are at the next level below. The only Proof Cameo example graded by PCGS is a single PRCA-64. "Chapman" Proofs are super brilliant and have only 16 berries in the wreath on the reverse, as opposed to 17 on the "Zerbe" Proofs. Additional die characteristics include a hollow area around Morgan's initial on the truncation line on the obverse (caused by die polishing) and light die striations around UN, AM, and RICA on the reverse.

I've bolded additional pickup points for the Chapman proof beyond the 16 berry reverse.
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