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 Posted 12/08/2010  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
After reading the post and replies on "woodys"I had to look in the glossary to understand what causes this,,are these woodys,,it looks more like acid to me,but either way is there any value other than pride of ownership,,





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 Posted 12/08/2010  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is not what I would call a woody. I would call it damaged.
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 Posted 12/08/2010  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's not a woody, that's a damaged coin. Woody coins are called such because of improper mixture of the individual metals in an alloy that show up on the resulting coins.
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 Posted 12/09/2010  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the definition,I was asking if this first is this considered a "error" coppercoins stated that no examples are listed,and also was there any value for this mistake,,also does the weight vary do to improper medal mixture?Thanks alot,,,
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 Posted 12/09/2010  12:52 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...does the weight vary do to improper medal mixture?


The weight should not vary because of improper metal mixture.

Worn and damaged coins are often light though; that's a different matter altogether.
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Forgive me for posting those scans,,that threw everyone off my questions,,I was 99% sure that this was damage,,not wood,,like I said,,looks like acid,,I just wanted to know how this effected the value and the if the weight was altered,,Ill try to be more clear,,thanks again,,
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 Posted 12/09/2010  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will try to be as clear as possible here...

First, things that are "listed" are die varieties that have problems with the die that repeats itself from coin to coin with every coin the die strikes. When we list a die and its characteristics with a "die number" other coins struck from the same die can be compared to one another as having been struck by the same die, thus those coins carry that die number when described to other collectors. It's simply a way of describing coins as having been struck by the same die. Once you have a coin from all of the different known dies, you have a set.

Problems like planchet alloy mix have nothing at all to do with the dies that strike the coins. One coin could have completely proper planchet mix, where the next coin struck could have an improper mix, thus have the stripes. So, to that effect, there is no way to "list" such coins, nor would there be any purpose served by trying to do so. They are known by type, no sense in trying to list them with some number or otherwise.

Finally, improper alloy mix does not change the weight of the resulting coins. It also does not change the size or shape of the coin, so there's no real collector value in them as error coins. Most generally, error coins are only coins that ar significantly different in size or shape from normally struck coins. This isn't to say that an improper alloy mix coin (woody) would definitely not have any premium value - value is established between a buyer and a seller. They are generally sold as a curiosity to collectors of such coins.

The real problem is when a key date coin shows up with this metal mix problem...they commonly sell at a heavy discount because of the stripes. Collectors generally do not want such problems in their sets, and do not want a key coin 'woody' in their set. I have seen a number of 1909S cents with this problem, and wouldn't buy them for anywhere near market value for the grade because the metallic stripes are detracting from the 'solid coin' appeal.
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That 1916 is AWESOME!
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I like the 1977 as well.
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This week's Coin World has a column on improper alloy mix errors. Theoretically, it is possible for an improper alloy mix error to have a lighter weight, lower density, and lighter color if there is a tremendously elevated level of zinc, tin, or both. However, the practical reality is that weight is almost always in the normal range. That tells us that the proportions are more or less right, but that the constituent metals were poorly mixed.
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That 1916 is AWESOME!



I would say, as usual, coop's, pictures are AWESOME...
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