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1970 S ... Am Thinking Large Dates ...

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Received these today and I'm thinking they're both large dates. What say you? Thanks :) (gee its fun to be happening again)

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 Posted 12/14/2010  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome back! I agree - large dates.
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Hi, dottir, Welcome back...

The top one is a large date, the next one looks like it is a small date, can you make the pic bigger...

I was going by the curl of the nine, looks like it was pointing to the middle of the 7.
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 Posted 12/14/2010  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome back Dottir!
Scooby...lighting and damage, but LD both.
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So much fun to be welcomed back. I've missed you all :)

I did the two of them together for a cursory looksee but will now scan them individually for a closer better look. Thanks for your feedbacks so far :)

My thinking was that the "LIBERTY" looks pretty strong in both so unlikely either is small ... but a closer look coming shortly ;)
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 Posted 12/14/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Geez, I got so excited to be back I posted 3 times :D All fixed now!
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 Posted 12/14/2010  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LIBERTY isn't a reliable way to tell, since the strike varies from coin to coin.
I looked for this coin for 10+ years in change, near San Francisco, where I would see ~3 70-S per roll.
When I found a real small date in a dealer's bargain bin, I realized the differences were dramatic side-by-side.

Here's an example of a fairly strong strike in LIBERTY on a small date--I should have kept this coin.

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 Posted 12/14/2010  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all that ;)

Here are closer up looks at both, just the dates on them. I hope they help. Very fiddly work to try get colours, lighting, and closeups real good:

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 Posted 12/14/2010  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The one on the bottom looks a lot skinnier numbers than the one above it
and the 7 looks closer to level the 9 and 0 to me ....
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 Posted 12/14/2010  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both large dates...keep looking
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I think that wear has smashed down the digits on the top picture, muddling the details.
This is the best explanation I've read on small date versus large date.
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Oh raspberries to ya! :D :D :D They also aren't in great shape.

I just thought there must be quite a few of the 1970 S circulating,
considering I've found a few even up here in Canada :)

For Christmas I'll wish to have the gift of being tranformed into
a 1970 S small date magnet ... and a 1936 dot Canadian cent :D
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 Posted 12/14/2010  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DVC have you got lucky with finding a small date? (I hope so :) )

Oops, BTW. I forgot to say thank you for the link. It helps!
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Dottir, I have--but only at dealers, not in coins from the bank.
I've found a couple in dealer's "bargain bins" that have coins from mint sets.
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I would also agree, both Ld's.

I wrote to a cent specialist about this coins pup's and informed him while I was doing research on this coin, I found another pup that was not listed any where.He stated there were already too many pup's for this coin already!

If you look at the common pup's the top loop in the 9 facing the 7 and not facing the m/m it would be a pup of a small date. I have found also, the top loop is more of a completed circle, on the small date coin than the large date coin being less of a completed circle.
If you check the point where the 7 meets together at the top right corner and did not see a line splitting the top horizontal line and the vertical line, this would be a small date, if you find a line there this would be a large date coin, also if the lower leg of the 7 is lower than the bottom of the zero, this would be a large date, if the lower leg of the 7 is equal to the bottom of the zero, this would be a small date coin and so on.

Now the part I have found to also be a fact, if both ends of the 9 are pointed this would also be a small date, if the top end in the nine comes to a blunt flat-looking end, this would be a large date coin.

I hope this is not spelled out too much to become a problem, good luck......just my studied opinions.....

If there are too many pup's for this coin, why do so many people still get confused and post the same question?
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Congratulations on finding any anywhere at all DVC

Hi Morgans Dad. Thanks a lot for all the clues to look for.

I notice too that the 1970S has a lot of separate posts about it.
I'm thinking thats partly because it is difficult to differentiate between the large and small AND I also find that with the circulated ones that the dates are often banged or flattened up a bit so could be distorting to add confusion too?
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