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Bedrock of the Community
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I guess it could be a 14.6 also by the wings but still need more pictures to differentiate between all these A1C Reverses. Cause it could be 14.7 as far as the wings go as well, but I don't see the chip on the cheek so I am ruling that one out
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Pillar of the Community
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AS you all know...this is a very studied year, so the game is afoot..
the pictures I present could represent more than one of the coins ID itself...which is the point of this post and in my hopes, many more VAM_IT's, I intend to continue this as a learning experience for those with knowledge and hopes lurkers to jump in....
THE A1C reverse is correct.......
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Pillar of the Community
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You know (Bryan and Russ), that Gene guy is very tricky sometimes.... It would be just like him to show us the reverse of one coin and the obverse of another just for kicks...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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well I can't do anymore until I get more pictures of the Obverse. If someone were to come here asking the VAM I would ask them for more pictures also that way it could be attributed correctly. You can't just post 15 shots of a Reverse and 2 shots of an unimportant part of the Obverse when there are 8 coins that share the Reverse and its the Obverse that differentiates the VAM's |
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Pillar of the Community
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AHHHHHHH well its no trick...these shots are for an intended research... Specific pictures, for specific reasoning..and they are of a specific VAM and the one I hold..yet sometimes one has to question what others present for there idea of attributions....SO I will post another picture of t he obverse....since you all know its an A1C reverse, but are still missing something...Back in a moment... |
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 Zee Mr. Gene gave us all a clue with the photo of the Obverse.. It's not what is there ....but what it's not showing. The Key pick up point to the Vam-4 is a chip above the dot between the S and the "U" of UNUM....that is by the denticles. Notice that the photo of the Reveres is full but not the Obverse and it is cut off just below where this key pick up point would be. With that I moved to the cracks as many cracks may be close... no two die cracks are truly alike. Edited by twohawks
12/30/2010 02:10 am
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Pillar of the Community
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and by the way, If: I was to post the entire DETAILED OBV and REV. you Bryan would have no trouble, and our lurkers would loose the methodology of the study, which is my emphasis, AND Russ, since when are cracks the epitomy of exacting a VAM? die cracks are not even listed by themselves? |
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Bedrock of the Community
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well I will just sit this one out also then. I just figured everyone needed a better playing field and give them all the attributes that make up the VAM because its going to be hard for a new VAMmer to say what it is without every attribute. So many VAM's share that Reverse its just pretty hard to choose 1 if you can see the Obverse and say its not that one and that one but it looks like this one |
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but are still missing something Yeah, I think that you are right Russ.... That darn Gene... ..... He is right though, I am missing something.... well, actually a few things.... adequate pictures and I forgot to ask for a reed count.... we could eliminate a couple of possibilities right there by knowing if it is 189 or 193. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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you also got to remember, this isn't the optimal time for everyone to be on the forum either. The only ones thats on here this late are a few of us night owls and the ones on the other side of the planet
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Pillar of the Community
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the thing is Bryan, as we look at a coin we often overlook some things as there is alot to look at...I'm not trying to fool any one,, just to allow one to take an approach to identifying a coin, wheather it be by date position, and Mint mark position, often overlooked is the reverse, in this case this is one of "SAY" 20, not sure of how many there are...but 78 has many..as the years progressed there came to be B1,B2 C and C3 and 4 ect.. even though it does not pertain to this year...My point is, this year does still have a reverse type to narrow it down, and as you so politley described IT DOES TAKE more OBV pictures to narrow this VAM down...but they have been given in disguise |
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Pillar of the Community
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also remember my point is for the lurkers to respond,,,and have some clues have been given..and an answer right or wrong has not been give...this does not confirm nor deny your guesses.. but you are on the right tract...one point has been over looked.. tomarrow I will see where this leads.... I due appreciate all your input |
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Nice VAM 4 Gene! I couldn't immediately rule on a VAM 4 because you cut off the "MAJOR PUP" ... that die gouge near the obverse rim at the 2 o'clock position.  Secondary diagnostics visible in the eye confirmed it. Edited by SeatedNut
12/30/2010 08:45 am
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Do you think that the deterioration at the second S in states might be an indicator of when the vam-4 was struck in relation to the other nine vams using this reverse?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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my monitor must be going out or something because I can't make out anything on that Obverse picture except its a Morgan. Heck it may be my eyes
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