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 Posted 01/05/2011  11:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ElaineTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My husband and I happened across a US Quarter Dollar with nothing stamped on the reverse side. We are not coin collecters at all. SO I thought I would search on the internet to find out if this coin is special. From what I've learned, It was minted in Denver. There is a small D to the right of Georges bow in his hair.

It seems to be a pretty new quarter. He has the texture lines in his hair. It says United States Of America. Liberty. In God We Trust. And Quarter Dollar.

As for the reverse side... Absolutely nothing. It is perfectly smooth. It doesn't appear that someone filed off the design. It is normal thickness. You can't feel a lip on the back side from the outer rim like you would normally but I suspect it is because it hasn't been pressed into it.

Does anyone know of a quarter from Denver with this Mistake?

Thanks in advance for any input.

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 Posted 01/05/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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A picture would be extremely helpful.
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 Posted 01/05/2011  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElaineTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took three pictures with my iphone to help out. One is of the edge that doesn't have the ribbing. It is completely smooth too. As for the back. The picture isn't great, but it looks like when it went to stamp the back it missed it's mark, you can see the outline. However it is completely smooth. I thought maybe someone played a funny and buffed it smooth. To my eye, I don't see any signs of anything left behind. And it doesn't appear "thinner" from filing it smooth.



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 Posted 01/05/2011  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, your pictures are not clear enough to be conclusive. I suggest that you weigh the coin to check for alteration, a normal quarter will weigh 5.67 grams.
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 Posted 01/06/2011  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The front and back of a coin are stamped at the same time, as the coin is squeezed between two dies. It is as impossible to get a coin "stamped only on one side" as it is to clap only one of your hands together.

The most probable explanation for your piece is that the other side has indeed been buffed or filed away.

Is the edge milled, or has that been smoothed off, too?
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 Posted 01/06/2011  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rim is missing. A sure thing the reverse was sanded/polished off the coin. See the rim on the obverse. The reverse should have this ring as well. Tampered with.
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Those pics look different from what I saw last night I thought I saw a rim last night and was thinking possible struck through capped die but no rim= altered coin.
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 Posted 01/06/2011  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flipcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes damaged to both sides of rim might have been sanded or polished of the coin .
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A missing reverse rim can also be caused by a double planchet load into the press, resulting in two coins each missing one side. Usually in such a case both coins will have excellent strikes because of the increased thickness. The rims in the center can be pressed flat. There is often some ghosting on the blank side which may or may not be what is seen in the blurry image. The lack of reeding may be a problem or this may be the top coin in the stack, struck above the reeding collar. Without better images none of us can be sure what we are seeing. Weights and measures would be a real help too. The coin looks a little too normal to be what I have described.
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 Posted 01/06/2011  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you please describe the arc looking area on the reverse, is it raised, incused, or sunken or what? I would really like to hear this question answered please, also Welcome to the forum family.......PS Are there any other features on the reverse that are raised or sunken at all?
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I don't want to seem rude since how I'm new here. But as far as a one sided plachet being made goes I've got a friend whom used to work in the mint who says this is more possible and happens alot more than speculated. I believe the gentlemen with the idea of two blanks loading and each one gets pressed together die on outter sides while centers stay blank is more what I've been told does happen to most. Not nessacarily will it infuse the coins. But is a good strike and it is flat n blank on other side. Thank u for your time. Oh as far as clapping with one hand is more possible than u realize as well.. Use your minds. Anything is possible. It's just a matter of numbers before y he probability is accurate but anything is possible.
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 Posted 05/14/2019  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question, keep asking!



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I'm in the camp of a start to a coin ring, the reeded edge taken off, the back milled smooth for comfort on the finger, then take it from there, which was never finished.

generally speaking it would have to be struck out of collar for it not to have any sign of the reeded edge, if that happened, it would be smooshed and misshapen, the mint uses about 54 tons of pressure to strike a coin. the metal moves outward without something to retain it the face side in my opinion, couldn't look like that the edges would be stretched. and the strike would be weak.
A partial collar strike is oblonged and not circular for instance. even two stacked on top of each other the bottom one will have full reeding on the edge, the other will have partial reeding on the edge and a smashed out edge lip, like a shelf or ledge on the edge. Any way I try to figure how this could happen from the mint doesn't' get to this visual result.

I'm going with reverse and edge tooled off by someone, I think to make a coin ring that never got completed, possibly the start of an unfinished Magicians coin.

Just my opinion, but I think the only possibility to get this visual result is Post Strike Damage.
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A missing reverse rim can also be caused by a double planchet load into the press, resulting in two coins each missing one side. Usually in such a case both coins will have excellent strikes because of the increased thickness.

While this is true the blank sides will NOT be completely flat and smooth.
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