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Morgan ?'s Paf Or Saf?

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So I have been reading my new Morgan Guide Book by David Bowers since I am a newbie. I've come to the part where he talks about the Sraight and paralell Arrow Feathers and even shows the two. The thing is, for the life of me, I can't see the difference.

I was wondering if one of you "experienced" Morgan guys could explain, or even better, post a pic and show me. If you live any where in the South like I do, you are going to have plenty of time on your hands anyways........Only been snowing a few hours and we already have six inches of snow
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PAF = Parallel Arrow Feather (rev of 78)

SAF = Slanted Arrow Feather (rev of 79)
I will take some pictures to show you the difference, just give me a minute or two

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If you live any where in the South like I do, you are going to have plenty of time on your hands anyways........Only been snowing a few hours and we already have six inches of snow

It just started snowing here in my area of NC but its already about a inch or two on my car outside already so its coming down pretty hard
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ok, hopefully this will help you see the difference

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The parallel looks more slanted and vice versa to me.


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It just started snowing here in my area of NC but its already about a inch or two on my car outside already so its coming down pretty hard


I live in NE Alabama just outside of CHattanooga so it's headed your way. It had slacked off some the last time I looked.
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Just learned a couple of new things thanks. Now I need to go get a book.I just looked at my 1887 & saw that it has slanted arrow feathers but have no idea what (rev of 79) means. It also has seven feathers, does this mean anything?
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Can someone please explain rev of 79?
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Just learned a couple of new things thanks. Now I need to go get a book.I just looked at my 1887 & saw that it has slanted arrow feathers but have no idea what (rev of 79) means.




59.......I have learned alot on here in just a month by asking many questions. I also recently got a Guide to Morgan Collecting by David Bowers and a 2011 RedBook a few months ago. Great bathroom reading or if you are going on a trip. Buy one online or at a coin shop

REV of 79 means the reverse side of the 1879 Morgan as opposed to the OBV or obverse side.
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thank you. I've been here 2 days so I'm a baby so to speak.
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Does that mean they used two different dies?
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correct, Rev of 79 is supposed to be on any date 79 or above. Some 1878 morgans had the reverse of 79 and there are some dates up to 1880 that have the reverse of 78 and that is a main feature of their VAM attributes
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Ok just got it, the brain is waking up, 1879 Reverse die, 1887 Obverse yes?
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i type to slow
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thank you for being patient with me
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On the 1896 P did they use matchig dies, if not what dies did they use? Is this a proper question for this forum. I'm so confused.
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BRYAN can correct me if I am wrong but yes....there is a die for each side of the minting the process. A planchet ( a blank coin) is struck on each side....the reverse strike (the back of the coin) is called the anvil side and the obverse (front of the coin) is called the hammer strike.....just like in blacksmithing.

But you wouldn't refer to either side of the finished coin as the hammer or anvil side.....just the obverse and reverse
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What is it that gives the coin value? Is it the number of coin struck, Mint they were struck at, or the dies or is it the condition? What should I look for when buying a coin?
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