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2002-D Nickel Whats Wrong With It?

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I found this nickel roll searching last week. Can anyone tell me what happen to it? How did it happen?

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 Posted 01/17/2011  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add derrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess? I'd say it was not well struck. I've run into numerous coins that had a similar effect but not as extreme as your example, and that was what I attributed it to.
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It has nothing to do with strength of strike, the reverse is perfectly normal. The appearance of the obverse is quite odd and there is no rim so I am not sure what to make of it To rule out post-mint alteration, get an accurate weight on the coin.
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 Posted 01/17/2011  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks a little like it might have capped the reverse die and then been struck at least once by a blank planchet.
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I can't weight it , I have no scale. In hand it looks like a weak strike on the obverse but a normal strike on the reverse. Can that be possible?It looks real cool in hand. I just don't know how it could happen. Unless it is a filled die? I have searched $7030 in nickels last year and I have never seen one like it.
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grease-filled die?
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I'm with biokemiswt6 on this one. It looks like the obverse's rim is missing . I have no idea how it became that way. Perhaps some others in our forum can shed some light on this mystery nickel.
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 Posted 01/27/2011  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins1371 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I went to the coin shop yesterday and ask them what they through. He said it looks like a struck through, but through what he don't know. He weight the Nickel and it was right on. 5 grams. I'm still puzzled.
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This is interesting...I'm baffled too.
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You could get some 'experts' to take a look if you ask the Mod Dudes to move this thread to the "Errors" forum ....

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Yup, this one's officially weird. It's not post mint damage.
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I suspect a deteriorating die cap. But a keeper. It would be interesting what Mike Diamond says on this coin.
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Looks like it was not struck with enough pressure. (just speculating because I have no minting process knowledge) Hmmm, if thats the case I dont know why I am even posting...Well I am interested and wanted to chime in anyway!

The area at the back of the neck seems like it was not stuck with any presure because there is no detail there at all.
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Looks like it was not struck with enough pressure.

If both sides had the same appearance that would be a possibility but the reverse is hammered. I also suspect it was struck through a die cap that had almost completely deteriorated but I have not found anything else with a similar appearance. At this point, it is just an educated guess and the best I can come up with
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Sooo ... now in the proper forum ... let's examine what we can see from the photos and draw some conclusions from that ...

I see the following ...

The reverse is a normal MS Jefferson ... assuming the blue obstruction in the photo at 6pm to 7pm is just poor photography whereby the OP let the background slip over the coin.

Sooo ... conclusion from the reverse photo is that this is not a weakly struck die-adjustment coin.

Another look at the obverse offers some clues ...

Notice in both photos the obvious 'shadow' of Jefferson portrait ... best seen at the nose and forehead ... but by-and-large complete 'shadow" all around the obverse portrait.

Also ... note the fully struck hair region on the portrait behind Jefferson ear ... which tells us this portion of the hammer die was clear at the time of the strike.

Based on my limited knowledge as a newbie collector I say that this coin was struck through a deteriorating obverse die-cap .. and in such a manner that the central obverse features were clear but the rim legends were affected.

That's my opinion .... now waiting on the experts.



David

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