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 Posted 01/31/2011  4:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add USMCLion to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know I'm going to get asked for a picture but I won't be able to get one for a day or two.

I ran upon a coin at the shop this morning and I'm trying to figure out what the proper name for it is. It is a 1999 Lincoln Cent and on the obverse it was obviously struck twice. The first strike is normal and the second is rotated about 45 degrees. You can clearly make out the liberty, the head and the date a second time. The reverse is normal with some minor Machine Doubling on the upper portion of the coin. Looks like a legit mint error to me as its not incuse and the letters are facing the right direction. I'm wondering how the second obverse strike was rotated but the revere is normal?

If someone could help me with the proper name and a ball park value that would be great

Thanks

Ryan
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Can't tell you much about it, but be wary of a false die restruck coin (outside the mint type thing). It is possible.

Only other thing I guess I could possibly add here is that it "could" be possible to get the result you describe if the obverse die were free-spinning in its place and the coin were double struck in collar. The second strike could be way off rotation from the first, with the reverse remaining in the same place for both strikes. I'm not completely sure this is possible with today's presses, but it would have been possible with the older presses.
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Right when I read reverse is normal, red flags went up.
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 Posted 02/02/2011  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USMCLion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK so I was wrong, it was a 1964, I'm not sure where 1999 came from. I have the coin at home and will try to get some picks tonight. Thanks for the comments.
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I would also be concerned about the reverse being normal. True double strikes I have had and seen in the past were double struck on both the front and the reverse. I look forward to seeing photos so we can see what you acquired.
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Yeah, the reverse being normal does not help your case for being a genuine mint error. I thought I had a doozy, too. But, got shot down for that very reason:
https://goccf.com/t/78678
still keeping it though, because I didn't do it!
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 Posted 02/02/2011  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USMCLion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Scooby, looks to be the case, very similar to mine
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I was bummed, I thought I had something really cool.

Keeping it as an educational piece for future reference. You probably should, too.

If that's the case! You may want to post and be sure!
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I didn't really pay much for it. I bought it in a lot of 40-50 errors that came into the shop through the mail from another island. I work part time at the local coin shop and for my efforts I get first dibs at the Lincolns and free table space to sell and buy at the shows. I couldn't ask for a better situation. I'm a little disappointed but at least it was a cheap learning experience. Much better than a $400-500 learning experience.
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