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 Posted 02/01/2011  10:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received a link to this site in the bulletin from the RCNA today. I haven't had a chance to peruse the site yet.

http://www.counterfeitcoins.bc.rcmp...contentId=-1
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 Posted 02/01/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoCentsWorth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a great website, thanks for posting it. Now to check over my coins...
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 Posted 02/01/2011  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link, but my iPhone couldn't open the link.
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02/01/2011 11:58 pm
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 Posted 02/02/2011  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add R2bR2c to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Good info. Ir was in CCN yesterday. Thanks
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 Posted 02/02/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I watched a few of those videos. That's a great resource--I'm impressed that Canada is trying to document and educate on these fakes. I only wish the US was making a similar effort.
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I only wish the US was making a similar effort.


I agree with such sentiment. However, there are a number of those who believe that such information should be kept secret because it "helps" the counterfeiters to become better. In the February 8 issue of Numismatic News, there is a Viewpoint rebuttal to F. Michael Fazzari's September 7, 2010 Viewpoint regarding Counterfeit Detection.

The rebuttal's overall tone and world-view are summarized in one sentence in the last paragraph:

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Had the numismatic community always treated information regarding Counterfeit Detection with a certain level of security, the problem we now face with regard to counterfeiting would likely be to a much lesser degree.


I personally applaud the RCM for making this information available to the general public. The more knowledge we have on counterfeits, the better equipped we are to fight the counterfeiters.
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 Posted 02/02/2011  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

<sarcasm>Don't tell anyone how to detect counterfeits and the problem will go away.</sarcasm>
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there are a number of those who believe that such information should be kept secret because it "helps" the counterfeiters to become better.
To me, that's a valid argument for present-day currency, where the Treasury should have secret details to keep ahead of counterfeiters. But for valuable collector coins, the more we know, the better the collector community can protect themselves--imo.
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 Posted 02/03/2011  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Well put DVCollector.

Basically it comes down to who's responsibility it is. With present-day currency the government has a vested interest in maintaining the sanctity of the currency. If gets to the point where the general citizen is worried about the validity of the currency they are holding, and is demanding to know the secrets to tell the good from the bad, the currency is already almost dead.

But, for numismatics, look how much difficulty it was getting counterfeits ("replicas") off ebay. The powers-that-be were shrugging and saying caveat emptor. If that is the attitude, then we better darn well be given all the information to empower us to beware. Or, the government should be applying the same zeal to those counterfeits as they do to present-day currency.





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http://cgi.ebay.com/Canada-FIVE-CEN...t_597wt_1139

Am I crazy, but does that look like the fake King George obverse?
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Funny money dialog_gvf :O) The king is going bald and got a nose job! :P
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I think he got a chin job too.
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To me, that's a valid argument for present-day currency, where the Treasury should have secret details to keep ahead of counterfeiters. But for valuable collector coins, the more we know, the better the collector community can protect themselves--imo.


Yes, security through obscurity has worked so well in the past.
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03/01/2011 09:12 am
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E-bay should be watching this video and get rid of these robbers on line and RCMP give them heavy fines.
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 Posted 03/01/2011  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I would get it if it was a 1951 high relief. But common 1949-1951 dates and in circulated condition?! What the heck are the Chinese thinking?

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Thanks for the Link. On the first page:


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A stamp "replica" on legal tender currency does not negate the offence, as the offence of counterfeiting would have already been completed. (Bank of Canada)


I have a few of those, such as a proof 50 cents 1921 and didn't think they were a problem. I thought it was a cool way to fill a hole. Glad I live in the states because it would appear I have participated in a fraudulent activity.


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