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Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 05:55 am Hey there. I'm unable to ID this simple coin. Looks like a Roman Emperor to me, but I'm not any good with these old coins. Thanks for any help. Identified - moved to Tokens forum - Sap Report this Post to the Staff

Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 08:08 am Any thoughts? :) Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16832 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 09:31 am It's not ancient - definitely not Roman in style. Looks more 1700s or 1800s. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 09:47 am Alright. Can you move it to "unidentified coins/tokens/medals" perhaps? :) Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 2:18 pm Interesting looking token I agree probably from the 18th century. Report this Post to the Staff
Meldercat Valued Member Canada 268 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 11:48 pm I agree. It looks like a token. There is a series of Swedish Daler coins I have from 1718 and 1719 that have a similar reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 12:09 am The staff appears to be a caduceus so it may have something to do with medicine. Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 05:07 am Meldercat, yes you're right to some extent. I have around 40-50 of those coins.. The man with the staff might be from.. 1/6 Daler Emergency coins ,1718 Mercurius. However, the head of that man I've never seen before. Yes, must be Mercurius 1718. Edited by Tomten 02/08/2011 05:10 am Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 05:13 am These pictures aren't identical. Their hands are different, their helmets too and the way he is holding that caduceus.. Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2881 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 07:34 am That's hardly surprising given your's is a crude copy. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 07:45 am Indeed. However why would someone want to copy an emergency coin anyway.. Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2881 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 08:06 am It's hard to say. In years gone by attendee's to events might have got a coin or token to show they had attended and to commemorate the event - that has all gone now - today you get a flashdrive or a mouse mat. The image is quite striking, perhaps the copiest just wanted to have something related to Hermes (or Mercury if your Roman). That's who this figure is, by the way - the kerykeion (Greek) or caduceus (Latin) is one of Hermes's attributes along with the winged helmet and boots. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 09:43 am Alright. Well yes, something related to Hermes sounds more likely than copying an emergency daler, in my opinion. What about the obverse then? Anyone seen similar persons? Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2881 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 10:28 am That's really just a caricature of what a Roman Emperor might be. It certainly doesn't look like any any real Roman coin My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 1:10 pm Alright. Thanks for your help. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 1:19 pm Tomten, the similarities to Mercury on the emergency coin is striking--and obviously used as a model for yours. I wouldn't be surprised if yours is from the same period, and is simply a private-issue token. Report this Post to the Staff
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