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Are Varieties - Regional?

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i was just wondering if any given variety - is originally a regional thing. say for example the BIGGIE 1955. would that have been primarily a regional find or is it more random and evenly distributed. I know that the "D" mintmarks are more westerly distribute, and "philadelphia" is more eastern. of course over time - all of the coins will get circulated, but the question is "original distribution" thanks.
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That's a good question and I'm sure there are a million theories...I think it may have to do with shipments for each particular variety.
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With the modern system of coinage distribution involving armored carrier companies and massive ballastic bag pallets containing hundreds of thousands of coins, I would assume that coins are disseminated more widely than they were in the past. Many finds have been isolated to geographic regions in the past. The vast majority of contemporary finds of the 1955 Lincoln DDO were in the New England region.
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I was talking with Wayne Miller a while back and he stated that he felt the majority of the 1937-d three legged Buffalo nickels were originally released in the Helena, MT area.
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The Wisconsin extra leaf quarters were sent to Tucson, AZ and San Antonio TX.(I'm not 100% of the location in TX) I live 120 miles north of Tucson and didn't see any here. My son lives there and still didn't find any. But he just check circulation coinage.
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drablec:

I can't speak to errors/varieties specifically - but I can tell you that in my experience, cents do not circulate much on a national basis.

I have been roll searching Lincoln Cent rolls, and my statistics through 90,000 coins are as follows:

In the San Diego area (where I live), 95% of all the cents I have examined dated 1983 - 2010 are from Denver ! For coins 1959 through 1982 the % of Denver coins is 63%! With the wheat cents, {1958 and older), the % of Denver cents is approx. 53%

To illustrate the difficulty of getting Philly coins in this area - I have found just 7 total of the 2009 Philadelphia lincoln cents. (four of #1, two of #2, 1 of #3), and still no #4's!

On the bright side, I get more later year "S" cents. (so far a little more than 1% of all coins examined). And of course, I get a LOT of later year 1999 through 2008 MS coins. .

I am saving more of the zinc MS coins from Denver (than I would otherwise) - in the hopes that someone further east has the opposite problem and will be interested in trading MS Philadelphia coins for my Denvers in the future.

It took Lewis & Clark much less time to reach the west coast - than "P"mint lincoln cents!
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You think that's bad? I live right outside of Philly, I'd estimate 75-80% of the cents I see are from Philly, with an even higher number of the zinc cents being so. Wheats, for me, are something like 52% Philly, 47% Denver, 1% San Fran.
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LastGold...keep me in mind when you reach your required posts...
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I gotta agree with LastGold. Here in Texas, 95% D's on anything 1959 and up. 40's and 50's wheat still runs about 60% D's. Funny thing is that 1930's and earlier are usually P's. On the plus side, RPM's are a lot easier to come across. S's are also hard to come across here....usually averaging 1 every 2 or 3 rolls.
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Maineman:

I will certainly do so.... Did not want to appear too forward, as my status is not 250. However, once I get to at least 50, I would be all ears to a proposition coming from your direction!

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In keeping with what Bio stated and being from new england myself
i think from the 60's and back the railroad was used more to transport
most products including coins from the philly mint. We still have many
railways here in the northeast. The old B&M (boston and maine) railway
was in use quite often. Even with the modern distribution systems of today the armored carriers / banks etc. really just make circles in the surrounding areas so the coinage that was here years ago tends to stay here. I was just born when the big 55 DDO was being minted. 6 yrs. later was when I began cherry picking for the coin along with the 16-D merc.
My grandmother was the expert. When she told me that the 55 was worth
up to $100.00 I had to have one. She died in 1970 never ever finding it. I kept looking. Never have found one yet in circulation but will always keep on searching. Maybe i'll finish her work.
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I thought most of the 1955 DDO cents were found in Pennsylvania, many of them in cigarette packs from machines.

Anyhow, this is a good question with only speculative answers.

Generally, especially these days when most of the coins any die strikes are sent out to specific Fed Reserve districts in huge Ballistic Bags, the chances that a large majority of any given die would circulate inside one region are pretty high. Given that cents don't circulate much like they used to, it's possible that a die variety would be much more common for years to come in that area than in any other area of the country. I know my chances of finding rather recent P mint die varieties around here would be VERY slim because this area has always been in the D mint district. About 75% of all the cents I ever see here are D mint. More than 90% of the cents made in the past five years around here are from the D mint.

Of course all this is said with the fact in mind that the mint doesn't "know" they are circulating a valuable doubled die when they do...it's not on-purpose that they all end up in the same regional area, that's just how coins circulate in general.
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