1921 P Morgan VAM Error ? VAM 1A2

In terms of vams, filled letter coins are not given VAM listings as per Leroy Van Allen. These are striking errors. A filled letter die can strike it is estimated from one up to maybe a dozen when the fill will then fall out of the die.

Originally, filled die coins were listed, but as of now if Leroy Van Allen could have his way, those that are currently listed would be delisted.

So to answer your question, do you have an unknown VAM due to missing letters from a Grease Filled Die? The answer is no.

You have nothing to apologize for. Filled die coins are special. Yours especially so. While not rare, they are quite scarce.

Leroy Van Allen and A. George Mallis found them very compelling.

It seems 1921 were especially susceptible to filled die errors due to the large quantities minted in 1921.

I have a 1921-P Morgan dollar, PCGS grade MS 62 VAM 71-A doubled profile. Nothing overly compelling on this except it has an unusual double error. Obverse lamination and reverse strike-thru grease. One of the large reverse legends is missing. D-O-L-L-A-R on this coin is spelled D-O-L--A-R.

the coin is a VAM because all Morgans and Peace dollars are VAM's, yours is also an error because of the Grease Filled Die that makes the letters missing. So you have a specific VAM (not sure which one) that is a variety which means every coin struck by those dies will have the same characteristics. Yours also has a error involved, the grease filled Reverse die thats causing the letters to be missing and that will not be on every coin struck by those dies.

For clarification purposes. All Morgan dollar and Peace dollars are VAM's. I was trying to point out that your filled letter Morgan dollar would not be given a new VAM listing from Leroy Van Allen as filled die are not listable due to the fact these are striking errors.
I cited an example of this with the 1921-P VAM 71-A having two errors, one one which is a grease strike- through (also known as a filled die)that had a complete large letter (D) in the legend missing. The coin is still VAM 71-A. The strike-thru error with a complete missing letter did not change it's VAM designation.

Are you saying your coin isn't a 1921-P VAM 41? Or are you saying it is VAM 41 but you are unable to differentiate whether it is VAM 41-A or VAM 41-B? As they say, a picture tells a thousand words.

I cant verify it by any of the pictures on vamworld, so I don't know if it's a 41A, 41B but its slabbed & was listed as a VAM #2-4A, however Dave say it is a 41B, I'm sure he's right & I'm just to new at this yet. I cant figure the picture thing out, I can e-mail them, I sent several to Dave. Thanks any help appreciated. How do I make my pictures 100K? I don't even know what that means.

I've been a little confused like acan451.

Tell me if my understanding is correct.

The reason all morgan and Peace dollar are VAMS is because they were all made from dies and die combinations.

The cataloging of VAMS is a record of dies and die states...die breaks, filing marks, re-tooling marks, doubling, etc,etc,.. as they were used throughout their life span.

A missing letter error that was caused by grease in the die, as well as other types errors are not list-able unique VAMs because the cause was due to a mishap and not a change in the die itself.

So all morgan and Peace dollars are VAMS, some more remarkable than others, but an error can occur on any coin (or any VAM) at ant time.

Cant spell very well either