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tershaffer Valued Member United States 232 Posts	Posted 02/11/2011 11:18 pm would this be doubling? Could not find it on copper coins. Report this Post to the Staff

HoosierDaddy Pillar of the Community United States 1164 Posts	Posted 02/11/2011 11:26 pm Is it a WAM? Report this Post to the Staff
tershaffer Valued Member United States 232 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 12:19 am Unfortunately not. Unless close counts, but last time I checked that only counted in horseshoes and hand granades, lol. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 02:19 am If it is a doubled die, the devices would need to be larger than normal letters. Take images of another coin and compare with the first coin. Machine Doubling usually just distorts the devices. On a doubled die they will be showing some spread. It's always best to get more that one image to compare with. Three (or more) works better. Then you can crop the outside devices on both images the same size. Then you can make the images the same width. Then you can see if the devices are the same size or not. Report this Post to the Staff
Maineman750 Pillar of the Community United States 3592 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 05:02 am That looks like it's worth studying Report this Post to the Staff
tershaffer Valued Member United States 232 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 10:00 pm O.K., not real good with photo stuff, but took both these pics through my scope at the same magnification and file size and lined them up and cropped together in photoshop. here is the 2 seperate pics and the one I cropped together, what do you guys think. I only did the "E", because it took forever to figure out how to do it. when I cropped it together I lined up the rim of the coin in the image,as you can see in the pic, but from the looks of it the "E" on the left is actually closer to the rim, which I'm assuming is due to the spread? It looks taller and more wide on the 3 legs? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 10:13 pm I'm still not convinced. Try cropping on the outside of \|WE\| on both images cut exactly the same and make the images both the same size. With 3 or more devices you get a better idea of size of the devices placed under each other like the example I posted. There are some Machine Doubling that looks just like what you are posting. When you crop it to just one device, then there is nothing to gauge it by. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 10:53 pm This is not a doubled die. As Coop said, a doubled die would - by nature - make the letters thicker than they should be, and this simply does not match up. I have seen anomalies like this a number of times, and I believe it has something to do with die wear. I'm not exactly sure what does cause it, but I am sure it is not a doubled die. Report this Post to the Staff
tershaffer Valued Member United States 232 Posts	Posted 02/12/2011 11:38 pm tried again, but the camera on the microscope I have does not allow me to take a wider image and when I try to crop in that far with my camera pics I just get a blurry mess. If you guys have seen this before and it is not doubling, then I'll move on, you haven't steered me wrong yet. Thanks for the advice on the comparing pics too, it will come in handy when I get better at it all. Report this Post to the Staff
Maineman750 Pillar of the Community United States 3592 Posts	Posted 02/13/2011 08:51 am There is a similar appearance on the 83 DDR thread going right now... Report this Post to the Staff
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