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Bedrock of the Community
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I have a coin here that I think is just plain ugly with dark doodoo brown toning on the Obverse of the coin, it is in a NGC MS-64 slab and in the breaks in the toning it has Mirror fields underneath and am thinking about sending it to NCS but am also scared to do so because I am scared it will look horrible after they are finished with it. If I do send it off I will post after pictures here so everyone will be able to see how it looks before and after. I just wonder what everyone else thinks I should do, here is a picture of the Obverse and it is a little darker than it looks in the pictures  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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here is some more attempts to try and get the color correct (one is trying to show the mirrors on the coin which my camera has major problems picking up)   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Well, I would dip it, but I ain't gonna even go there. NCS, if it is worth the cost. MM  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Bryan, this is a classical conundrum, a quandary. You've already got the coin in an NGC holder with a decent grade. If you send it to NCS, the chances are even that they would make the coin better or they would make it worse. My understanding of NCS is that they will contact you with an opinion before they do any restoration and, if that is so, then you are presented with a go or no-go option. You'd still have to pay the conservation fee.
If it were me, I'd be inclined to send it to NCS with the proviso, if they don't do it automatically, of contacting you with their recommendations before they do anything. I suppose it's a gamble. Of course, the do-nothing option is always there, but I'd tend to take the gamble.
I am also presuming the fingerprint is on the holder instead of the Morgan (I hope, I hope)?
Fred
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Bedrock of the Community
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No such luck, the finger print is definately on the coin. Another thing is this is a VAM-81 (the one that took me 8 months of looking through many many 1878 B1 reverse morgans to find and only found 2 of them, the other came back a MS-63 at NGC). I beleive I am going to send it in and see what NCS says about it and I will update pics when it comes back. I have a box going to PCGS for attribution, might as well send one to NCS as well
Edited by Bryan1315
09/24/2006 12:07 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Drat! Bryan, I would definitely send it to NCS and see what they have to say about the fingerprint. They can get away with cleaning coins with techniques that we wouldn't dare attempt. If they say, "Sorry. The fingerprint stays.", you could always tell them to forget the whole thing and have them send it back.
Fred
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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yeah, I will keep everyone updated
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Bryan! Could I possibly piggyback a couple with your submission? I have two which I've been intending to get to NCS at some point.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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sure man, just email me and I will send you my address and I will just wait until I receive your package to ship mine out
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Go for it! Cant help but make it better looking than it is now.
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United States
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Any update on this yet? I'm very curious to see what they say.
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Originally posted by Guido
Any update on this yet? I'm very curious to see what they say.
After delaying shipping to receive my coins, I don't believe they've been in-house for more than two weeks. Too early to sweat.  Trust me, I've got a bit riding on this submission myself. |
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Originally posted by Morgan Fred
Bryan, this is a classical conundrum, a quandary. You've already got the coin in an NGC holder with a decent grade. If you send it to NCS, the chances are even that they would make the coin better or they would make it worse. My understanding of NCS is that they will contact you with an opinion before they do any restoration and, if that is so, then you are presented with a go or no-go option. You'd still have to pay the conservation fee.
If it were me, I'd be inclined to send it to NCS with the proviso, if they don't do it automatically, of contacting you with their recommendations before they do anything. I suppose it's a gamble. Of course, the do-nothing option is always there, but I'd tend to take the gamble.
I am also presuming the fingerprint is on the holder instead of the Morgan (I hope, I hope)?
Fred
Fred, If you send a coin to NSC, do they take it out of the slab, and if it was graded by NGC, do they put it in a new one? Or do they look at it through the slab and give you their estimate of what they can do? Also, if you have NSC restore a coin, and then have NGC grade it, what will NGC say about the restoration, if anything? Does the restoration lower the value any? Or does it help preserve it? Lots of questions, I know. Thanks for any info you can give out. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm curious for an update too. I've seen some amazing results from the NCS! I agree that the "doo doo" needed to go down the drain!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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as soon as I find out something I will tell everyone how it turned out, it took about 5 days to send it in because I had to wait for NCS to send me some more submission forms because they wouldn't allow me to put slabbed and raw on the same form
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Guido, I'm not certain how NCS processes a coin. Bryan is, or will be in a better position to answer your question, but I believe NCS makes an assessment on a slabbed coin without removing it from the slab, then contacts the owner for a decision. If it's a "go", I believe NCS then removes it from the slab, does its conservation, then puts it in its own slab unless the owner wants it forwarded to NGC for grading, presuming it can be graded. If it can't be graded if NCS has to clean or otherwise alter a coin during the conservation process, then it stays in the NCS slab. There may be a lot of variation and qualification to this process.
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Posted 09/23/2006 11:41 pm
