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The High Price Of Silver Good Or Bad For Collectors?

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 Posted 03/02/2011  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Good observation! How many dealers would keep "common" US silver in their inventory at these melt prices?

nod2003:

It depends. Some of the places around here have individuals buying the melt coins as fast as they come in.


Not me, I learned a lesson in 1980.

nod makes a good point, too. Sure, some coins are being melted, but if you have a bag of 90%, it's a known amount of silver with a value based on that.

You can always turn it into 999 bars, but you can't turn them back into coins, so why lose 5% or so to change them into something with fewer options?
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 Posted 03/02/2011  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The likelihood of there being a $3000 coin out there to accidentally get refined is pretty slim to nonexistent, or it wouldn't be a $3000 coin. It's not like there are hundreds floating around in circulation that will all get turned in for scrap. Knowing how rare it is to find a 90% silver coin, I can't imagine many sterling coins that aren't already in collectors' hands.

I'm sure that no one that is presently melting coins has any idea of what they are worth numismatically and really could care less. Due to home invasions, robberies of all sorts, coin stores and coin show visitor robberies, many valuable coins are treated as just coinage. It is really highly improbably that crooks have a Red Book with them when they go to dump or sell their stuff. And by STUFF, to them that is what it is, just STUFF to be sold, melted or whatever they can or do with that STUFF. If for some reason a $3,000 or even higher valued coin was in with a robbery, the crooks just don't bother to sit down and look it up. And the jewlers or smelters that melt them also could care less of Numismatic values.
It is always difficult for coin collectors or dealers to even imagine someone melting valuable coins. But just go around asking anyone that is not a coin person the value of a 1913 Liberty Head Nickel is and you would probably get $0.05. There are millions and millions of people out there right now considering melting down any coin that even slightly looks like Silver.
A good example of such stupidity was not to long ago in Chicago they osted that if you brought in any gun you would receive a $20 certificate for gym shoes. Thousands were turned in an melted down. One that was saved was an original Colt Dragoon worth aabout $7,000. Somehow a Museum curator grabbed it in time. Yet to this day on one knows how many other such rare guns were just melted since those that did the melting really didn't care.
Same with Silver coins.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well reports are in for the last swap meet coin sale and they are all pointing to the influence that the price of precious metal has on lower valued coins. The bottom line is that the lower value silver or gold coins rise to the spot value of the metal. Those coins that are very collect able seem to not be influenced by the spot prices. Their value is established by the collector.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have really enjoyed this tread, lots of insight from collectors and dealers. My collecting focus over the past five years was to up grade my walkers and complete my modern commemoratives. most of the commeratives were bought below spot now and I'm glad I have almost compleated my set prior to this bubble. It is also good to replace a worn dated walker with a quality AU or BU peice knowing I have added another coin to my silver stash. I was blessed to start collecting early when silver coinage was redally found in your change and it still is a spark of pleasure when one shows up.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just spoke to my son and he said he likes it so far. He has filled in two Morgan CC which he could not have afford if he didn't sell some of G,VG Morgans. They would not have sold for there good looks. My overview is that it is a win/win for the collector. Removing culls and replacing with quality. It seems that quality coins have not risen in cost. There is a lot of frenzy and competition selling and buying at this time. If you know what you want and have COH you might be able to find what you want. We are also seeing people unable to spend several hundred dollars before the prices went wild step up to the plate spending more than they could before. Ride the wave, have water wings in backpack. LOL
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 Posted 03/02/2011  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Logic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great discussion and general info.

The only real drawback I see, is the potential marginalization of the casual collector, but most of those will just switch their focus imo. I think even that is more than offset by the amount of potential new collectors who are exposed to and made aware of coins in the first place, if only by the melt value. It is only a small step from there to collecting and once you get in, as we all know, you never get out.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good if you're selling,bad if you're buying except what some have mentioned about getting better specimens for your money.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While it's true that a thief doesn't check for rarities, most of the people that buy will check. Maybe not if they sell a silver dollar for five bucks in a bar, but that buyer isn't gonna melt it down, either.
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