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1875 CC Trade Dollar

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 Posted 02/27/2011  12:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gdlovgren to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just looking for some input as to the value of this coin.

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 Posted 02/27/2011  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say F15 about $180. You can get more accurate pricing from ebay. You'll be able to look up end auctions to see what the market is paying.

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The mushy details and porous surfaces strongly indicate a cast counterfeit. The porosity could also have been caused by old corrosion but you need to get an accurate weight on it, a cast counterfeit will be significantly light while a corroded coin will still be close to normal weight.
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I was thinking fake also, it looks just like a cast copy. I am about 90% sure this isn't a real Trade dollar. I wonder what kind of metal they use on these cast copies and if they will attract to a magnet?
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My first impression was fake, weigh it and let us know.
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 Posted 02/27/2011  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gdlovgren to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It weighs 25 grams.
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 Posted 02/27/2011  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely to light. Where did you get it?
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Spec on this coin is 27.22 grams.


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I hope you didn't pay too much for this one. Sure looks bogus.
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It was handed down from my grandfather who has been gone for many years and I'm a grandfather a few times now myself, so it's been in the family for probably 80 to 100 years. If it's fake, it's an old fake. I'll have to have an expert look at it in person. Thanks for the input though.
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Old fakes of this age and provenance are more likely to be cast. This original to this coin was struck 135 years ago. The original to this coin if it is a fake, at the time of copying, say sometime in the 1920's, would have been 40 to 50 years old.

This suggests to me, if it is a fake, is most probably of American manufacture.

If that is the case, I guess that it would have been made for the numismatic market of the time, rather than a forgery, intended for circulation.

What we need is some information extracted from one of the more erudite American numismatic magazines or journals, and conduct a short investigation of prices of rare coin advertisements at the time. The idea of this type of investigation is to consider to what extent it would have been worthwhile to make a cast copy from the original in the 1920's.
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let us know the results! but now that I look at it the surface does look a bit weird...
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Swamperbob where are you? Someone shine the Swamperbob light into the sky.
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Here is a little better pic. Different lighting makes it look a lot clearer. I still only weighs 25 grams. What do you think?

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 Posted 02/28/2011  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At a weight of 25 grams, there is zero chance it is genuine. Of course, the surfaces already told me that as well.
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I agree with those that think this coin looks fake.

Also the weight falls right into the range of a cast coin.

I have been learning that one of the first things to look at
on these coins is the edge (reeding). On fakes you will sometimes
see a line, of sorts, or that the reeding is very mushy or weak.
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