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I tried searching and having difficult finding info.
The 1939 Nickel has either the 38 or 40 reverse?
How are they distinguished?
Are there estimations of which reverse is more rare/valuable in high grades?
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I'll take this one. Stand by.
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Woot! Good thing, because I wouldn't be able to answer this one.
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This is true of the proof nickel as well as the Philadelphia Denver and San Francisco business strikes meant for circulation.
Also the 1940 Proof can be found with a reverse from what they call the 39 rev or type 1 or the 1940 rev or type 2. But that is a different topic.
For 1939 reverses they are either Type 1 which is that of the 1938 Jefferson or Type 2 which is that of the 1940 Jefferson.
At some point in 1939 the reverses were changed because of the improved design detail made to the working dies. The steps at the base of the Monticello building on the 1938 dies were weak and somewhat wavy whereas the steps on the new reverse or re-worked reverse had very sharp and straight defined steps.
There are other subtle differences but this is the main indicator. It is necessary to have enough of the detail to be able to identify one from the other.
I am going to look for the estimated percentage proportions for 1939 reverses for P D and S and the proofs.
I'll add that next post.
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Would the reerses with or without serifs on the lettering be a marker for worn varieties? I had posted these in a previous post.
Edited by numismo
03/06/2011 4:41 pm
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1939 P Type 1 Rev of 1938 10% 1 in 400 having 5 full steps. 6 steps unknown. 1939 P Type 2 Rev of 1940 90% scarce but much more available than TY 1 having 5 full steps. 6 full steps very rare. 1939 D Type 1 Rev of 1938 25% 1 in 150 having 5 full steps. 6 steps unverified. 1939 D Type 2 Rev of 1940 75% 1 in 10 5 full steps. 6 full steps very rare. 1939 S Type 1 Rev of 1938 55% 1 in 100 having 5 full steps. 6 steps unverified. 1939 S Type 2 Rev of 1940 45% 1 in 10 5 full steps. 6 full steps very rare. So generally all business strike 1939 Jefferson nickels are found more often with the 1940 reverse. Quote:
Would the reverses with or without serifs on the lettering be a marker for worn varieties? I had posted these in a previous post. I am unsure what you are talking about in the year 1939, but there is a rare 1938 Proof with an extra serif on the bottom of the S in the word TRUST on the obverse. The prices it fetches at times can be a great bargain or it goes for too much in my opinion.
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Anyone have a link of pics on the steps of each reverse? And great info also. Thanks.
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Here is a page on Wexler's varieties that show exactly what we want to see in a couple clear images about 3/4 the way down the page. Quote:
Look at the stronger serifs in each second picture. So what is this? Is it a way to determine the reverse of either a 1938 or 1940 as well? I might be persuaded if the one on the left was a 1938 and the one on the right were a 1940 but I bet the steps are too far worn to tell on both. My guess would probably be Die Deterioration, but maybe you found something there. Can you find these differences on AU and BU coins of 1939?
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03/06/2011 10:06 pm
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Sorry wheezydog but I've never had any BU or AU 1939s to look at. Maybe some forum members can check theirs to see if they find matches to my pictures. It would be interesting to see if both types of serifs were found and to try to correlate them to the steps.
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numisomo , I checked my 38 39 40 nickles
The 38 looks like the pic on the left , looking at the N in unum the bottom has no seriff perfect match for my worn 1938 nickel
My 39 looks the pic on the right its worn but you can see the seriff on the bottom of the N in unum
The 40's all have the seriff on the you in unum
So numismo your pics on left should be a 1939 with 38 reverse and on the right a 39 with 40 reverse
Interesting , I just read about the 1942 war nickle with a small S next to the building versus the others all have the large S above the roof.
I was checking my nickles looking for that error , and said what the heck i'll check these 38 39 40 reverse and see what I got
from these worn out nickles in a jar I found in circulation over the years , I found a 1942 FS with most of its steps still in tact
Edited by coppertop5150
03/08/2011 12:51 am
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thanks for checking coppertop. Maybe the lettering style does go along with the step designs.
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