Need Help On 1968-S-1970-S Jefferson Nickel About Full Steps ?

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Ricardocody Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 02:15 am Last night I was making together a set of proof nickels from roll search then I realize these 2 coins were not proofs and also remember that the 68-70s with full steps have a good premium . So my question is .. Are these coins in enough good condition to be called full steps ? Give me your opinion ! 1968S. Hard to believe but not a proof coin 1970S. Also hard to believe not a proof because they have mirror proof like ! Is it worth to send them to slab as a fs or not ? * Edited by Staff - Fixed Photobucket images * Report this Post to the Staff

Ricardocody Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 02:23 am The only way to tell they are not proof is because they have not the cameo frost on the bust and on the montcello . Report this Post to the Staff
Darth Anarchus Pillar of the Community United States 1388 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 09:24 am it looks like the 68-S is FS, but the 70-S has 2 hits that would keep it from FS designation. The 68 could bring a high grade is you were going to slab it, it's very beautiful tho. Just my humble opinion tho, I would wait for the experts Report this Post to the Staff
SPQR Valued Member United States 327 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 09:29 am That '68 is fabulous! Certainly an MS FS grade! Irrespective of full steps or not, either of these years in this condition are a great find. The dies got a workout and there are a lot of mushy strikes. Report this Post to the Staff
Ricardocody Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 10:23 am I though about worn dies maybe I ll try to slab these but before would appreciate any advise and thanks for the opinion . Report this Post to the Staff
KenRingold Pillar of the Community United States 594 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 10:33 am IMO, if I intend on selling them, I'd probably have them slabbed. If I'm keeping them, I'd stick them in an airtite and smile. Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 12:13 pm Both of them are proofs- look at the rims. Proofs from this period do not always have cameo contrast so you cannot use that as the only indicator. Proof rims are always sharp and squared even if the coin has been lightly circulated. Report this Post to the Staff
Ricardocody Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 2:52 pm They are very sharp strikes so they are going to my proof set then Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 5:47 pm Quote: The only way to tell they are not proof is because they have not the cameo frost on the bust and on the montcello . Quote: Proofs from this period do not always have cameo contrast so you cannot use that as the only indicator. Correct. My 1968 to 1971 proof nickels lack cameo, and it is very weak on the 1972 to 1976 proofs. There is a huge contrast between the 1976 and 1977 coins. By the way, these were all broken out of proof sets by moi. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 7:14 pm Wow, I thought these were business strikes and had to delete my post I had here. The more I look at the field surface under the steps and above MONTICELLO the more I can see the smooth mirror like surface that still kind of shows. Edited by TNG 03/07/2011 7:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SPQR Valued Member United States 327 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 7:15 pm Mmmmm...I'm not convinced on the '68. The 70, ok, maybe. The 68 just looks like a really nice business strike to me. Then again I'm blind in one eye and can't out of the other. Edited by SPQR 03/07/2011 7:23 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15392 Posts	Posted 03/07/2011 9:14 pm Apologize for the late reply ... No disrespect to the OP ... but the quality of the photos are confusing us. Clear accurate photos ... which we all strive for ... should show mirror surfaces of a proof-strike coin. IMHO ... these are both proof strike coins ... I base my view on what I can see ... square rims ... bold strike and both bold features and lettering. Ricardacody .... cameo is not the positive indicator of proof strike coins of this era ... Quote: The only way to tell they are not proof is because they have not the cameo frost on the bust and on the montcello . Look for the true indicators of proof strike ... bold rims ... mirror surfaces ... bold everything. Am not able to offer a grade opinion from the photos ... but I suggest you save them in your Jefferson Proof collection and be happy to have them. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
fioti Pillar of the Community United States 4212 Posts	Posted 07/11/2012 12:18 pm VERY nice '68! I've seen FS easily clear 200+. Dont let the proofness bum you out. There are over a dozen double dies. I too, have been fooled by these dates. Report this Post to the Staff
ratio411 Pillar of the Community United States 1208 Posts	Posted 07/11/2012 12:27 pm IMO, which is far from perfect... The 70 is a proof. The 68 could be a business strike. Not only is it lacking proof surfaces, which many proofs then had substandard surfaces, but the rims are not nearly as wide, sharp, and square as the 70. Tough call. Certainly a beautiful nickel if a business strike. I admit, it could be a proof, but it could just as easily be a very nice business strike. I'd hang on to that one. Report this Post to the Staff
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