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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This ebay item seems to be stirring some interest:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT



The seller says this item was found among other "coins" a storage locker. Hmmm. I need an aspirin.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madlou22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Complete bull. Just look at his feedback! 0! This guy is obviously a scammer, and you certainly should not bid.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks too nice to be Chinese junk, I would lean towards it being a Gallery Mint copy.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is in a hard plastic case that is in very good condition


Well if that plastic case in in very good condition....count me in!!

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 Posted 03/16/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This so-called "coin" lacks the telling die break that original 1804's have. The pic is too blurry to see if this copy has a crosslet 4 in the date.

Some years ago, I recall being able to contact other bidders so that they might be forewarned. Nowadays, ebay "protects" bidders' ID's. When I now ask any telling questions that would perhaps shed light for an unknowing bidder, the seller won't post my question. On the plus-side, some sellers have quickly removed questionable items.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madlou22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah haha, that coin looks super sketchy. Those bidders made a big mistake... You should never buy from a guy with 0 feedback, especially not on high-priced stuff.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at the three bidders, they've each had hundreds of transactions on ebay. Indeed, the top bidder has done over 3800 deals, selling/buying. As their numbers are so high, I'd venture a guess that these are serious bidders as opposed to shills.
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Is this answer below really a single sentence?


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Q: Have you ever taken coin to dealer to see if authentic Mar-10-11
A: no but like I told some one earlier I found it in a storage room we won at a auction and I dont know anything about coins but I took it to a coin shop in the town I just moved from and asked them about it and they said aww its really nothing and offered me a little bit for it but then they were upset when I wouldnt sell it to them for that and he seemed very interested and kept upping his offer but about a year ago id taken some steel pennies and alot of paper money to them silver certificates and quite a few others that they got over on mr about because I later found out they were really worth alot more and they had told me they werent worth anything only because they knew I was nieve to them so I assume thats what they were doing this time because they really wanted them but thats the response I was looking for I had no intention on selling them to them just wanted to see what they said. /quote
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 Posted 03/16/2011  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is this answer below really a single sentence?


I was just going to ask the same question, he must have skipped English class and searched lockers instead.

The story is so classic that I would be skeptical if it was in a PCGS or NGC slab.
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The reply the seller gave lends credibility to his ignorance about the item ... IMHO, that is. Could he sound any less wary of what he's peddling? If he is scamming, he's thus done a good job of baiting the hook, methinks.
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The reply the seller gave lends credibility to his ignorance about the item ... IMHO, that is. Could he sound any less wary of what he's peddling? If he is scamming, he's thus done a good job of baiting the hook, methinks.


True, but I think that many scammers do the same thing with a similar story. Did he get it from some locker he bought, maybe, or could he be playing off some popular TV shows in order to make it seem more legit? If you're not scamming, why state where you found it/got it from anyways, unless you are asked? I've never sold a coin by starting off the description, I found it....
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 Posted 03/16/2011  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SOLD ... $188, including postage. There were five bidders. Were this item genuine, it'd have garnered well over $100,000. I wonder if the buyer's out celebrating? Ignorance is bliss.

Can't wait to see what this seller posts next ... Maybe, an 1804 $1!
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 Posted 03/16/2011  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are there even any examples of red 1804 cents in existence?
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 Posted 03/16/2011  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question... I'm also interested in finding out!
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What is ridiculous is that I reported the item as fake....I probably was not the only one.

Yet ebay let the auction continue. For $22.68 ebay turned a blind eye and let a "New" seller scam someone. I use " " because I would bet that this seller sold under a different name that probably has been suspended.

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Is it possible that some of these bidders took a flier and knowingly bid on the coin on the very remote chance that it is real?

If you think about it - if you win, and it's real, you just made a mega score. If it's fake, you file a Not as Described with Paypal which you would almost certainly win.

Not something I would try but if you are a high dollar collector with lots of money to throw around, it's a thought...
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