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1921 S Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 03/30/2011  5:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jsb1561 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Any thoughts on what happened to this Lincoln Cent. I'm thinking it had a piece of another cent hung up in it.

1921-S-Lincoln-Cent

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 Posted 03/30/2011  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it could be a " Cud" on the reverse. I am clearly not an authority on the subject, but is just a guess.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jeesh, What a combination there.
A lamination issue, Cud, and struck through something.
Tough to replicate that damage as PMD
Bet that was the last coin that die saw.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It actually is only damage.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppercoins, I don't know anything about error coins, but to me that looks like a ' Cud' on the reverse and, on the obverse looks like a lamination peel.
Could you explain why you think it's only damage?

Thanks
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 Posted 03/30/2011  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's only damage. I know it's only damage.

The dead giveaways are:

1. the imprint of grit all over the coin that looks like gravel or sand.

2. the damage is completely inconsistent with any sort of mint error.

3. The heavy damage all around the so-called " Cud" kinda gives away the fact that this is merely folded over metal, not a Cud.

4. although there is some lamination on the coin, this is normal for the period. The lamination was further affected by the damage.

5. over 35 years experience looking through millions of coins tells me so.

This coin was beat to death with a hammer, folded over, then beat some more. It is not an error of any kind.

With #5 - not trying to be crass or a smarta$$ - but it's true. Get a couple million coins behind you and you'll know the instant you spot damage every time.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsb1561 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It actually is only damage. Damage from what, damage don't add copper to a coin. The top of the coin is damaged because of all the extra copper stamped on it, the coin also weighs almost 25% more than a normal copper cent.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solder...arc welder....something - there are a hundred thousand different things that could alter a coin. If you want to know exactly what caused it and why you would have to go to the person who did it. But this was not done at the mint. That coin is not an error.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD! PMD!
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 Posted 03/30/2011  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the date/mint, that's just wrong! Should be punishable in some states.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's a custom job. Looks like it was dipped in Ketchup, too, poor little thing.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I didn't add in the part that it looks like it was cleaned with Comet. I figured that part was easy to tell.
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 Posted 03/31/2011  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how anyone could say that coin was dipped in ketchup. Its clearly salsa.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no, it was dipped in hydrochloric acid
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Thats what happened to it back in '29 when the stock market crashed.
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How does a damaged coin garner 15 responses? Really, why?

Does anyone think that the site administrators could start a forum specifically for PMD? I do acknowledge that it's a highly popular subject, the popularity of it's posts doesn't lie. But I don't feel these have much pertinence to Errors or Die Varieties.

Would it be possible, once a coin is recognized as damaged and not an error, to move the thread to the PMD forum? That way all the PMD junkies could get their fix and a higher ratio of threads in this section of the forum could have applications in the E/V world.

I think it's a Win/Win!
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