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Photos ... Classic USA Silver Set Upgrades

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Over the past few months I've focused on a few needed upgrades for my 50-coin classic US commemorative type set ... the type set is still a delightful work-in-progress .... I have now collected 45 of the 50 coins in relatively high grade PCGS holders.

I'm writing to share some photos of the recent upgrades ... hoping you enjoy the coins and perhaps even gain some inspiration to take a look at this set as a collecting opportunity!

1892 Columbian Half ... PCGS MS65+ CAC

Amazing cartwheel luster on this first ever USA commemorative coin. Mostly blast white ... some toning on the reverse ... the obverse of this coin is a great example of original planchet marks (cheek of Columbus) not detracting from an MS grade.

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1935 Hudson Half ... PCGS MS66

Without a doubt IMHO the funkiest design ever placed on a USA coin. Chester Beach came up with a masterpiece .... Obverse has Neptune riding a whale (backwards) while a mermaid blow on a conch shell. The reverse features an image of Henry Hudson ship "Half Moon" ... which Mr. Beach memorialized with his funky quarter moon.

This was an expensive upgrade .... Numismedia FMV is $2900 at MS66. Coin is submitted to CAC for their review.

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1936 Delaware ... PCGS MS66 CAC

I purchased this as an upgrade to a badly toned Delaware. This coin exhibits satiny luster typical of many classic US silver commemorative is is absolutely gorgeous in hand.

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1938-D Oregon Trail .... PCGS MS67 CAC

Fabulous coin and purchased as a complement to my 1936-S PCGS MS67 Oregon (I just could not pass it up). This lovely is truly a hammered strike ... check out for yourself the small sun rays within the large sun rays on the reverse. Every detail is there ... blast white coin with original surfaces. Perhaps the current favorite coin in my set.

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1946 Iowa ... PCGS MS67 CAC

Blast white, no-toned example and well struck. PCGS old green holder.

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1952-S Washington-Carver ... PCGS MS66 CAC

A 'common' coin which is very difficult to find in this combination of grade, strike quality and eye appeal. Fully struck lovely coin with cartwheel luster.

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Hoping someone out there enjoys the photos.

David
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 Posted 04/16/2011  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hoping someone out there enjoys the photos.


Nice ... very nice. I never realized that was what was on the Hudson. It was too expensive for me to consider so I never stopped to look at one closely.
Thanks for posting these.
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Very nice coins! Thanks for posting!
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Great commemoratives and you made me get out my set to admire the variety of designs. Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Wow... those are just stunning...
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Great looking set so far. I imagine it's probably been quite an undertaking, especially being graded.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PeaceBD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some awesome coins. Thanks for sharing the pictures.I hope to have a collection like this someday.
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Nice material
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so envious! but so amazed! thanks for sharing! post more!
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 Posted 04/20/2011  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice coins!
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Thanks all for the kind words ....

I wish there was a way I could share the entire collection ... all 45 of 50 coins .... some sort of on-line photo album.

Anyways .... I'm having a great time slowly assembling what for me is a lifetime set of these lovely classic commemoratives ...

Looking forward to sharing more photos as my set moves slowly towards completion.

David
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 Posted 04/22/2011  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Simply amazing coins you've collected. I cant wait to see the others :)

What criteria are you shooting for on your set? A certain grade? Or the best that you can buy with your budget?
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Sweet coins!
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What criteria are you shooting for on your set?


That's a very good question which I will try to address without meandering too far.

I've been at this set for about 2 years now and my 'criteria' has changed as my knowledge has matured. I'd say at this time I have firmly established what the set will be ....

Visual Impact

The absolute most important characteristic (to me) is the visual quality of the coins. I am looking for no-toned white coins (or at the most very limited toning) with above average strikes and exceptional 'eye appeal'. They must have full original luster and not been dipped to death.

Examining the six coins I posted above ... even if you did not know the grades ... they are all IMHO lovely to behold from a visual impact perspective.

Here is one of my favorites from the set that exemplifies this requirement ... 1937 Antietam Half ... PCGS MS67 CAC. This coin absolutely glows from across the room. I went through hundreds of Antietam Half to find this one lovely coin.

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To drive this point home ... I would take a lower graded visually attractive coin every day over a high graded average impact or ugly coin. My set contains several examples where the 'upgrade' was in fact a reduction in technical (MS) grade.

PCGS Certification

Sooo ... the second criteria is that I want them all in PCGS holders. To be honest ... this 50 coin type set is not an inexpensive pursuit ... many of these are $1000+ coins. I figure the cost to have them certified by the (IMHO) top TPG is a worthwhile investment.

Most I purchased already in PCGS holders.... 4 I purchased raw and submitted to PCGS ... and 5 I purchased in either NGC or ANACS slabs and had them crossed over (with a drop in technical grade each time!).

In fact .... if you are savvy to the PCGS registry set site ... you can actually view photos and commentary of all 45 coins there. Look for the "No-Toning Classic Set" somewhere around #50 to #55 rank.

Technical Grade

The final criteria for my set is the actual technical grade of the coins as determined by PCGS.

This is where the money part comes into consideration!

I decided early on that I wanted a set in Mint State condition .... and reading an article by Q. David Bowers really helped me to decide where to target the technical grade for each coin.

Bowers describes a concept he calls the "Optimal Collectible Grade" (OCG). In a nutshell ... the OCG is the price point whereby a single point increase in technical grade results in a significant price increase.

A quick example of OCG for this 50 coin type set ... consider the following Numismedia FMV for a 1926 Sesqui Half ..

MS61 ... $95
MS62 ... $101
MS63 ... $132
MS64 ... $400
MS65 ... $3060
MS66 ... $17,810

One could argue that the OCG for this coin is MS63 ... and this OCG concept is worthwhile to consider for those of us putting together MS collections. Why pay $95 for an MS61 Sesqui when for a few dollars more you can purchase an MS63 example?

All that said .... I established for myself a minimum technical grade of PCGS MS64 for all coins ... regardless of OCG.

In many cases I have gone beyond OCG for a 'special' coin ... the MS66 Hudson shown above is in fact 3 points above it's OCG of MS63 ... but what a wonderful coin that I will enjoy the remainder of my life.

I have submitted most of the $1000+ coins to CAC for their review ... those guys are tough ... appx 50% success rate despite all my efforts to hand select premium coins. So far about 20 coins in my set have a CAC green beenie ... might help my kids resale when I pass on.

Long answer ... hope someone reads it someday.

David
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 Posted 04/23/2011  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great reply! I'm a big believer in Bower's thought process on which coins to acquire as well..

I think you have some great selections.. With that much luster, it's obvious there hasn't been much of a dip on the coin.. So, your coins are pretty close to how they were the day they were minted..

Keep posting your thoughts and selections.. I've learned a lot from them and love the insight into the commemoratives.

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Absolutely beautiful coins!
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