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93 LMC Die Adjustment Strike?

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 Posted 04/18/2011  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add quiquelo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Could this be a die adjustment strike?
The rim is taller than the 1993's I've seen and the outer devices seem weak. The 3 in the date and the LI in liberty are barely visible.


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 Posted 04/18/2011  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's either Grease Filled Die or Die Deterioration, but I am no pro.
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I think it's a combination of what John1 stated.
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Kind of looks like a low pressure strike. Is the reverse look like this as well? If it looks normal with no weakness, then it may be a struck through error. If you could put an image of the reverse on the thread that would help.

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Just noticed the question you asked it it were a trial strike?
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The 1993 cent was definitely Struck Through Grease. The well-struck design rim, the uneven pattern of weakness, and the appearance of metal flow on the affected design elements are all indicators of this. As to why grease sometimes causes metal flow, I haven't a clue.
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Is it me, or is this one showing some serious Machine Doubling? I wonder if the grease was involved. Nose, chin, ear...was the alignment off, heavy in the west/northwest? It almost seems like LIBERTY and the beginning of IGWT are "smudged" by a moving clockwise shift during the strike.

Edit: I don't know enough about the process to be sure, and it doesn't seem intuitive, but could the upsetting mill somehow contribute to the flow lines? The actual "squeeze" couldn't, but something has to flatten and shape the rim evenly parallel to the coin's face. I'm just grasping at solutions because I'd think the presence of grease on the die would pretty much negate flow lines.
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The die flow lines are indicative of a worn die. It is not part of the upset process. The upset process makes the rim on the coin raise by running it through a narrowed channel.
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