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Valued Member
United States
284 Posts |
Adam showed off his wonderful collection and it made me think about the safety of doing this. I grew up with Soviet Russian parents who were extremely paranoid. They were always afraid that someone was after them and that they best thing anyone could do is lay low. It sounds like a guilty conscience but it's really just the product of an oppressive regime harrassing it's citizens with unnatural police force (i.e. the KGB). Without going into a whole lot of family history, our family was told to leave or say hello to a gulag in Siberia. The warm sunny streets of America seemed like the way to go. People have lost so much privacy through pubilc records going online. Anyone can find anyone else. My parent instilled paranoia says that by posting my collection I'm telling the whole world that my house is the place to break into - not my neighbors. I can imagine a neon lit sign with bells over my house. "Ding ding ding! This house, right here. Yep!" It's hard for me to shake the feeling and I truely hope nobody loses their collection because of an online posting. The lose wouldn't be due to a member taking advantage of another member. I imagine this would be the crafty thief who searches and plunders. This is one of the reasons I hesitate to post pictures of my collection. That, and my collection is not nearly as impressive as what others here have wonderfully amassed. I think there are some bank rolls floating out there that can put my collection to shame.  Anyways, just a thought... Comments? -- Boris |
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Valued Member
Canada
311 Posts |
Nothing is 100% safe. I struggle with this also. I don't usually let on to acquaintances that I am a collector of coins. Even if you don't show pictures of your coins you can just be posting information that will let others know what you have. If someone wants to steal my coins they have to get by my dog, she doesn't like strangers.
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Moderator
 United States
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This is the ONLY place that I discuss coins and my collection. Since I moved to Denver there is no one in this state that knows I collect. Not even my local family and close friends. I still have everything packed up with the words "Tools" written on the box so my last roommate wouldn't know.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
I wouldn't call it paranoia as much as a real concern for the what the new world is like. It's not like the old days when you slept with your windows open and your car unlocked. I think it is a legitimate concern. That said, I still want to share my acquisitions with fellow collectors. I take pictures, get them to my safe deposit box at the bank, then post. If somebody did break in, they would get a few coins that are better than your average circulation finds, but nothing valuable enough to warrant risk vs. reward. Not to mention they would have to get past Colt and Winchester. One's a dog.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Its funny you brought this up. Just a couple days ago I was thinking about putting up a website to show off what collection I have. I've registered and built websites before and the first thing that popped into my head was once I register the site, you can search very easily to find out who the owner of the site is and their particulars like address and so on. Now, of course, you could give less than accurate information or even pay for the privacy service that some offer and instead of seeing your information they see the registrars information. But it is something to think about and something I have considered doing but have held off for that reason.
Its not that I have multi-million dollar collection or anything, but I do have some money invested in it. Though Oklahoma does have the 'Stand Your Ground Law' through which if I have reasonable fear of imminent peril I can meet force with force even if its deadly force. So, cut and dry, I no longer have to make all reasonable attempts to flee the situation, If I feel reasonably threatened I can take action. And it goes without saying I would. I am a constitutional conservative and I love my second amendment right.
But in the end, I think it reasonable to make all attempts to safeguard your information. With the added enticement of posting a coin collection on line I would go as far as I could in protecting that information. I love to show my coins and I love to talk about them and to a certain extent I have control over that (who talk to and show them to) but once on line, without taking any precautions I would have concerns of the added risks.
Im not a conspiracy theorist or think there is a spook in every shadow (No offense by that either), its just really safe practice to take extra precautions in doing something like posting a collection on line.
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Moderator
 United States
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I too keep my better stuff "off site" in a safe. Quote:
If somebody did break in, they would get a few coins that are better than your average circulation finds, but nothing valuable enough to warrant risk vs. reward. Same here. Quote:
Not to mention they would have to get past Colt and Winchester. One's a dog. Same here but mine is Glock and Ruger and neither is a dog John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not to mention they would have to get past Colt and Winchester. One's a dog. I prefer the 6 1/2" Taurus Judge w/3" Cylinder loaded 45 LC's and 2 Taurus Public Defenders loaded with alternating rounds of 45 LC and the Winchester PDX1 410. defensive round.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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whats dangerous about it? they dont have my address, and they dont know which state I live in, just my country, and I doubt someone would come into my place just to steal a couple hundred dollars worth of coins.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
If you got broken into and all they took was your coins, you got off LIGHT. It's when you have a retirement hoard like that guy in British Columbia when you have to be extra careful.
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Valued Member
United States
424 Posts |
Reminds me of this joke... Late one night, a burglar broke into a house that he thought was empty. He tiptoed through the living room but suddenly he froze in his tracks when he heard a loud voice say: "Jesus is watching you!" Silence returned to the house, so the burglar crept forward again. "Jesus is watching you," the voice boomed again. The burglar stopped dead again. He was frightened. Frantically, he looked all around. In a dark corner, he spotted a bird cage and in the cage was a parrot. He asked the parrot: "Was that you who said Jesus is watching me?" "Yes", said the parrot. The burglar breathed a sigh of relief, then he asked the parrot: "What's your name?" "Clarence," said the bird. "That's a dumb name for a parrot," sneered the burglar. "What idiot named you Clarence?" The parrot said, "The same idiot who named the Rottweiller, Jesus."  |
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Valued Member
 United States
284 Posts |
I understand the argument of standing your ground and defending yourself. Like StormStrikes, I am a fairly conservative guy but I add in some libertarian leanings. However, I would prefer to avoid all actions that would lead me to need to stand my ground. If it cannot be avoided then so be it. My home is my castle.
As far as finding e-mail addresses, home addresses... trust me, it is ridiculously easy in todays world, especially if you get your identity stolen. It happened to me twice so I ended up on two lists. The county I live in has made all property records public. The average person can out of curiosity Google anyone's name and chances are you will find a lot of info. The theif just needs to start putting two and two together.
I know I am describing a situation where someone is deliberately and purposefully targeting a victim so the chances are pretty slim of being picked randomly.
Still, it makes me wonder just how much privacy we have in today's day and age.
That said, I sign this message with...
-- Boris
Edited by christian_cyclist
05/22/2011 10:31 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
508 Posts |
I completely understand your concern Boris. Pulling your IP address is a relatively easy thing to do, and even someone with mediocre computer skills can use that to get a rough estimate on where you live, exact address if they know what they're doing. I myself am a naturally paranoid person, thanks to my naturally paranoid parents I'd imagine. I would love to tell you it's alright to post your collection, but there's a part of me that would disagree, I personally wouldn't post my collection. Just recently my father got mugged and his keys and wallet taken, we had to change all the locks on the house. Nothing like adding to my paranoia knowing a group of thugs (no matter how far away the incident occurred) have the location of my house and what they believe to be a working set of keys. Now I find myself watching cars go by half expecting them to show up. Privacy is a great thing, the less you reveal online, the less chance your going to get that random chance of being targeted via internet. However I do think the chances of someone happening upon your internet postings and attempting a burglary is a lot less than just a random local burglary. Alright I'm done with the novel writing... ^_^
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree with Scooby Due. IF you are going to share your collection:
1. Take advantage of a safe deposit box so nothing valuable is at home to be taken.
2. Take advantage of 2nd Amendment rights.
3. Have a dog who instinctively knows who is a friend and who is meat for his bowl.
4. An alarm system sure can't hurt.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with a lot of what has been said. Maybe I am a fool though because my collection is all at home in a safe. Personally I hate the idea of putting my treasures in a safe deposit box. I want to have access to them when I want to see them and not have to go out of my way to look at them. If this puts me at risk...so be it. If they get stolen...so it goes. I refuse to be afraid to enjoy my collection on my terms. Don't get me wrong I take precautions and I am not trying to dispute what others feel...I just refuse to live in fear...life is too short. IMHO
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Valued Member
United States
284 Posts |
I can understand keeping some things in a safety deposit box. For example, my family kept their original citizenship paperwork in a safety deposit box. If that document gets lotst, stolen, or destroyed then you would have a heck of a time getting a second copy back in the early 80s. I would feel a bit sad keeping my coin collection in a safety deposit box though. Then my coins are not a "collection" anymore. They became a "deposit". However, if I really did have a coin worth several thousands then I would probably keep it in the box.
Here's a thought. Some people drive cars worth more any coin most would have. BMWs, Cadillacs, etc... yet they sit in something no more secure than a garage. We also don't hide our flashy cars since we drive them to work and to go shopping, leaving them out in broad daylight.
-- Boris
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Valued Member
United States
259 Posts |
I would be more concerned about a random burglar getting in and stumbling upon my coins than someone coming after me specifically because I posted some pics of nice coins on a coin forum. Having said that, just as you don't want to go to certain parts of town and flash a big wad of cash, so too it might not be be prudent to show off a bunch of pics of all your American Gold Eagles and St. Gaudens.  Edited by chasinva69
05/22/2011 1:40 pm
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