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1787 Connecticut Post-Colonial Small Head Inde Et Lib Copy?

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Hi, I just found this coin, and I'm trying to figure out if it is real or a copy/replica. It looks to be a 1787 Copper Small Head Facing Right 'Mutton Head'. It measures just under 28mm and weighs 11.4g. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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It looks like a very nice gallery reproduction. You've got the variety right... How did you come upon it?
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Thanks for the reply. It came in a lot of coins. I figured it might be a reproduction of some kind, but I wanted to make sure.
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Well, what were the other coins? Were they all colonials or high-end coins? It's not often you stumble across an MS-63 RB Connecticut...

Also, the dots to the left of the clasp (obv) look wrong. But that's about it! It's a nice repro!! =)

Oh, and for reference, most Connecticut coppers are 6.5-9 grams. So the weight is the best giveaway...
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It's not often you stumble across an MS-63 RB Connecticut...


I know very little about colonial coinage but I do know to be highly suspicious when someone "finds" a 220+ year old Red-Brown copper. That is generally a very good indicator that you are dealing with a more modern replica.
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There was nothing special in the other coins, just some silver quarters, half dollars, and rolls of pennies from the sixties. The nicest coin is a 1932 Washington quarter in really nice condition, somewhere around MS-60 if I had to guess.

I read somewhere about the proper weights, but I also read that Connecticut used imperfect planchets and wasn't sure if that made a difference.

Also, if you look at the top of the obverse just above the head, it looks like there are some letters, almost like the coin was struck over a different coin. What you you think?

Thanks again for the help.
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Yeah, I saw that... wasn't sure what it is.

Planchets wouldn't be off by that much, sad to say. I know a lot of colonial dealers send repros as trinkets with purchases.

And bio - yeah, especially on a nearly perfect planchet! That said, people DO win the lottery. 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, but there is that ever-enticing 1!
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That said, people DO win the lottery. 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, but there is that ever-enticing 1!

About like the guy in CoinWorld that found a 1794 Liberty Cap, Starred Reverse cent while metal detecting. A coin that only 50-60 are known to exist. He didn't even know what it was rare until he took it to a dealer. I would say that is a 1 in a million find there and luckily he went to an honest dealer. Hard to be lucky on the same coin twice, once when he found it and the other when he took it to the dealer
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It's a copy for sure. The devices are not correct for this variety and the soft details give this one away. Nice photography.
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