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2005 P Nickel Edge

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What happen here? Any collector value to it? It goes all the way around the edge. Thanks all,John1
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The edge of the rim looks rough. I think it is tampered with. There is nothing in the mint process that would leave those marks. If there were we would have seen more examples of this before now.
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I have noticed that a lot of the 05 P Buffalo nickels have an edge that was different. They had marks running from side to side across the edge. Not sure if is the same though. I never did look at one through a microscope.
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Based on the appearance, I would say it might be remnants of the blanking process when the blanks are punched out from the metal stock.
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I've noticed these lines on the edges of 2005 nickels also...
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Are the vertical lines raised or incuse? Can you provide photos of each face?
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for checking it out. The lines are raised and I can not post new pics because I can't remember where the coin is
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Based on the appearance, I would say it might be remnants of the blanking process when the blanks are punched out from the metal stock.

100% in agreement. That's exactly what it is.
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John it has only been 5 years - I am sure your memory goes back at least 5 and half years .

I am lucky if I can remember last weeks coins.
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This is not blanking damage. It also seems unlikely to be due to a damaged collar. I suspect it's damage from from a coin-counting/sorting machine. While such damage usually takes the form of thick, evenly-spaced oblique ridges and grooves, it's possible that other designs can produce different patterns.
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This is not blanking damage

Why not? Seems just as plausible as coin counting sorting machine damage
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The collar would have removed these lines if they were caused by the blanking process. It would have to happen after the strike.
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John1, I thought you link your example in reference to another recent post. I can not find that other post now, but the markings on the other coin was nearly identical to the what you captured in fourth pic from the top. A repeated evenly spaced marking that seem to circumference to edge of the coin.

Both examples showed edge pics and not straight on obverse, reverse and rims. So I'll assume they both seemed normal to the eye.

If so I thought about it trying to come up with a conclusion.

Shear lines from blanking process I'd think would be possible if it (the blank) missed the upset process and had a lessor (or no collar) strike in the coining chamber was the only thing that would allow the edge markings to remain that in tact as seen. This seems too unlikely in my opinion.

I think Mike's explanation of an outside source applying the marks after strike seems more likely. Thank, Doug.

PS: also thought about the upset process. Can it produce such a thing if the pressure not properly adjusted?

Again if so I'd think we'd see more examples. As coop says the normal collar strike should wipe them out so again unlikely.
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