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Belgium "Waffle" Coin

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 Posted 06/22/2011  10:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mmorgan22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got these in another coin lot that I bought. I have only seen "waffle" coins on US coins rejected from the mint. This is a 1999 20 Francs "Belgique" coin that was only used in sets, with a mintage of 60,000. So these were the leftovers.

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 Posted 06/22/2011  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cool,
that was done to "destroy" the coin at the mint? I assume it was supposed to be melted, but somehow got rescued?
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 Posted 06/23/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here in Germany you could, and to some extent still can, buy such "decoined" pre-euro pieces fairly easily. I have three of those myself (1 DM, 2 DM and 5 DM, one each). The central bank used so-called "decoiners" to turn the pieces into scrap metal. There is a simple reason why this was done: People turned the old coins in, the central banks would collect them and then sell the pieces as scrap metal to whoever wanted to buy the material.

By "decoining" the pieces, the central banks made sure that they were not coins any more. Cash could have been stolen and redeemed; this way it was much easier and less expensive to transport and store them. In Germany they had eight decoiner locations; each machine would deform 2,500 kilograms of coins per hour.

(Edit) Here is an image of such decoined coins: http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,423522,00.jpg - Note that in DE only the Cu-Ni coins, from 50 Pf to 5 DM, were treated that way. Don't know which denominations were affected in Belgium ...

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Belgium has issued amint set in 2002 I think with the new euro coins and the old francs coins that have been in circulation the year before.
The latter were decoined specimens.
Quite an interesting set.
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 Posted 06/23/2011  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmorgan22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have about 20 of these with different dates ranging from 1994-1999 all 20 francs. Some dates were issued for sets only and others for circulation. I'm guessing that there aren't very many collectors out there for this type of coin (scrap metal). I do see US waffled coins going for around $5 on ebay, but have only seen a couple waffled coins from other countries which vary in price. Just wondering what the value of these might be if anyone has seen them sold before, or collects this type. Thanks.
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Hi mmorgan22,

I started collecting decoined coinage of the World in early 2003. This was before the United States Mint started crushing their scrap, before the term "waffled" was applied, and before the NGC grading company began promoting slabbed, "BU", demonetized U.S. money.
I have many decoined pieces from around the World, and can provide a list if interested. (You may also be interested in http://www.littlemistakes.com/waffles/

Bill

P.S. - In my view, this 'scrap' is interesting, but not worth much.
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