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 Posted 07/01/2011  8:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nannio to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is going on with the price of gold? This is scary though I know it will eventually go up. Who is manipulating this time?

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 Posted 07/01/2011  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope it drops a few hundred :). I'm in the market to buy lol.
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 Posted 07/01/2011  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greghansen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, I would like the chance to pick up a few half eagles and eagles back where they were last fall. Let it come in a hundred or so.
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 Posted 07/01/2011  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean manipulating? In the past 6 months gold is up $180.00 an ounce. A little 1% move in one day is nothing. You need to have a bit more risk tolerance man.
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 Posted 07/01/2011  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fake dollar must have bumped up against the fake euro.
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 Posted 07/01/2011  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add michaeln1306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I figured all this talk on faulting on the national debt would have raised metal prices.

Maybe it will jump once the gov stops paying its bills.
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 Posted 07/01/2011  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was an article in Numismatic News a few months ago about the prices being "influenced" to a certain degree.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarwulf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean manipulating? In the past 6 months gold is up $180.00 an ounce. A little 1% move in one day is nothing. You need to have a bit more risk tolerance man.


Yah, gold is already out of the reach of most but some people will not be satisfied with anything less than gold skyrocketing faster and faster to infinity without an inch down.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is not as much volatility in the price of gold when it is adjusted for inflation as you may think. Same applies for silver. Only annoying problem with my comment is that the price histories I have been looking at only cover up to 2008. That is why I won't be more specific.

Perhaps someone can find more recent inflation adjusted figures than I have been able to find.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.kitco.com/kitco-gold-index.html shows daily changes due to currency vs trading.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is probably the result of people dumping paper holdings in the OTC market.I think it is July 15th when they can no longer trade PM futures over the counter. This measure is being put into place to weaken the ability for big money folks to manipulate the price without ever touching a single gram of metal.But that is just my therory.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
biggfredd: Thanks for filling in what I have failed to provide.

In your link, the 10 year price graph is the most illustrative of real gold value vs. inflation.

10 years ago, the price of gold was $400 per ounce. Now it is around $1000 per ounce, inflation adjusted. That is a 2.5 X increase in real value.

I have just used a reiterative process with exponentials on my calculator.

That process reveals that gold has increased in real value by 9.5% per year, inflation adjusted. THAT is what you call a real gilt edged investment.

Currently in Australia, interest bearing deposits over this term yield around 7%, on which income tax and inflation have to be allowed for, which reduces the real rate of return to about 1%. The real yield on the physical gold investment is close to 10 times better than that of an interest bearing deposit (in Australia).

When holding physical gold, these are not allowed for, although, legally a Capital Gains Tax should be paid on the re sale. The best way out of this (in Australia), is to buy and sell gold in 1/20 ounce lots to avoid the capital gains tax, because the sale price of 1/20 ounce is still less than $100.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may have been the Greek Bailout that caused the most recent bump.
I doubt gold price is manipulated, but other things that affect Gold price. A recent example.... Dump a few Billion barrels of Crude Oil Reserves on the market, as the USA administration and other countries did recently, which affected not only gold, but the dollar, the Euro, the stock market, etc.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ca Dreamin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with gold being traded around the world, the overall market is far too large to be manipulated. However, some day to day fluctuations can and will occur if some big money investor or a nation like Russia, China, etc decides to buy or sell huge quantities. Don't worry about the day to day stuff-just look for long term trends, and follow those.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep dropping. I'll keep buying.

Bye, bye dollar! Thank you for ruining our currency, F.D.R., Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, George Bush Jr and Barrack Obama!
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 Posted 07/02/2011  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like Hock said in another thread, the USA is just the best looking ugly girl in a beauty contest right now, and Greece and its mess has stole the spotlight. The fundamental reasons Pm's and other commodities went up to begin with, will kick back in here soon. Especially with dumb and dumber (AKA the entire US political staff) about to toss yet another stick in the spokes of the the entire system. I think it was Leslie Nielsen that kept barging in on Ted Striker saying...."Keep up the good work, were all counting on ya", even after they had crashed landed, and that is what I say to the US government today....

I am sitting at 26 grams of gold and buying when I can, as I don't think it is ever going back the other way south, via a multi hundred drop. It has went from 250 an oz. to 1550 an oz. in just over ten years, so a 50 or 60 dollar fall is not even gonna worry me personally, just another buying window.

And perhaps two more coins will get me too my first oz. of gold, and that will be in the form of 20 separate coins or bars....
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