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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I want to hear your opinion , its either I made a fantastic deal or I'm day dreaming .

Got on ebay 1881 O 1D .
Graded by SGS as MS66 .

got it for $66 ...

Is it to good to be true ? it is to my understanding the value of the coin it much higher . Red Book talke about thousands but it looks over valued there
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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never heard of SGS...I think its worth like 65 dollars...so yes I think you got a good deal.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SGS overgrades their coins by so many points.

your coin is probably between MS 61 to 63, and possibly cleaned.

it could even be down to an ICAU.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it most likely over graded .. was hoping that its MS63-65
AU will suck ... even with that I think I did ok with the 1D VAM no ?
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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way how do you recognized if the coin have been cleaned/dipped and etc?
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 Posted 07/02/2011  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We need pics to determine what's what.
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 Posted 07/02/2011  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a fantastic deal *if* it's actually a Mint State coin, but an SGS slab is cause for panic. SGS does not need coins to be Mint State to call them "MS66."
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 Posted 07/02/2011  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also hope its wasn't SGS that called it a 1D, they don't know one VAM from another. I have shown a 1878 in one of their slabs that has it listed as a MS-67 VAM-79 and it is nowhere near a VAM-79. The only reason they haven't sold it yet is because they are asking what a real MS-66 VAM-79 would sell for but if it was reasonably priced someone would have gotten taken for a ride very fast. I have contacted the seller and got the "I didn't grade the coin" story and I am selling it for what SGS says it is no matter what you say. The seller is the guy that has 100% of SGS coins in his inventory. Anyway, if SGS se's one detail that is close to a high dollar VAM they automatically say it is that VAM on the label (in the VAM-79 case it was a broken nostril, but didn't really match the VAM-79 nostril)
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 Posted 07/02/2011  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adam, how can you say that with no pics?

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 Posted 07/02/2011  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ohhh well worse I got scrap overpriced silver. I will post some pics when ill get this one and another 1900 I got. Maybe I will be lucky

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 Posted 07/03/2011  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i was just hypothesizing about what it could be, I never was certain.

but I can say that its not MS-66 even without pics.

and I do believe, from the pics, that its an ICAU.

but dont trust me, I'm not certain from the pics given.
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 Posted 07/03/2011  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean byICAU ?
I know IU grading, but don't know what is ICAU?

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 Posted 07/03/2011  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, improperly cleaned AU

so, AU details
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 Posted 07/03/2011  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tinofet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please tell me how did you recognized it as cleans coin.

I am trying to figure out how I can identify it
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 Posted 07/03/2011  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am no where near an expert, and its even harder to tell from those abysmal pics, but the connection between the hair and the cheek seems to "flashy"

if you can get better pics when you get the coin, it will probably turn out as an original coin, but with a LOT of hairlines.
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 Posted 07/03/2011  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ran down the original auction. Based on the images provided there, it's almost certainly not a 1D. The obverse image, although small, is clear enough so that it should show the characteristic crinkling around the eye; I don't see it. It could conceivably be a Mint State coin, though - the images in this thread don't preclude the possibility. If so, it's not a huge loss.
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