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1891 S Morgan

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Hard to tell with all the toning but what grade would you give this one?

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Really a cool coin I would go MS 63.
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nice coin! I agree with 63 but dont care for the toning on this at all
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I am going to say MS-62 based on all of the marks on the obverse.
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for the same reason.
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i also agree with 62.

too many bag marks to pull a 3.
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agree with all the ms 62 grades. I like the toning even though its not the prettiest.
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Don't like the tarnish covering lots of cheek damage, 61
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Thanks for the feedback. My own guess was MS60/61. This one's in a Redfield holder. Guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The unusual toning is why I bought it. I know it's not worth the price of grading but might give NGC a shot at it. Not that I'm expecting a higher grade; just prefer em slabbed.
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You're falling victim to your increasing skill in photography, Sidekick.

The shots are displaying the annoying tendency of accurate imaging to overstate marks - it gets tough to tell how significant those marks on the cheek area would look if viewed in-hand or with a less-capable photography rig.

Keep in mind, guys - the better an image, the more likely it is to show a coin a grade (or perhaps two grades) lower than you'd award it in-hand. As regards this one, I think in-hand I'd call it MS62, but it may be deceiving me as well.
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Interesting toning I will say MS-61
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Maybe this one was at the bottom of a bag, face down, on his basement floor?

I agree the toning isn't the 'nicest', however it is interesting and unique. Very cool.
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Super nice photo's
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At least MS-63, I think the toning gives the illusion of a lot more marks than there really are.
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Thanks for that and BTW I invested in the purchase of one of Ray's Bausch & Lomb camera stands. Perfect if you're doing manual focusing. Or auto for that matter but it's especially well adapted for manual. Two vertical adjusters with increments possible within an nth of an nth. Not much need for my focusing ring. Surprisingly small, compact and mobile. I can move/rotate the entire apparatus under the lights adjusting for just the right look under the lens without actually having to move the lights. Glad I got it. There are drawbacks using my native Canon 100MM lens due to it's diameter but nothing I haven't been able to work around when shooting the larger coins like Morgans. I'm also able to mount my bellows for use with either of the 2 Nikkor enlarging lenses I have.
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I generally don't advise this, but have a go at the obverse of this coin with diffuse lighting. Diffuse lights will de-emphasize the luster breaks on the cheek, while the accuracy of your equipment will still easily capture the actual scrapes on the surface. I suspect it might make some change their mind about the grade, as well as making an interesting point regarding coin photography.
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