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How To Grade When Obverse And Reverse Are Different?

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I just had a chance to examine a friend's Liberty Cap Large Cent. The reverse of the coin is pretty worn, but all the details are legible. Probably between a VG08 and a VG10. The obverse, however, is much more worn, to the point where you can still make out the central figure (with no details) but the date is completely missing. Maybe an AG03 at best.

To determine a fair price to offer him, I need to know how to grade this coin. Do I go for the lower of the two grades (AG03) or average the two together, or what?

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Those are so close if it were me I'd just average the price between those two. And as you said, a freind, so to trivial a difference to worry about. I don't know what coin your referring to so if it was a coin in the thousand dollar area, that is one thing but from your discription, might be a few dollars difference. Offer the lower and buy him a beer with the proceeds.
OOPPS, I mean have him buy the beer.
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The problem is, without a visible date I can't really tell which coin it is. It could be a rarer year worth $10,000 in this condition or a more common year worth $300...
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I am with Carl, average of O and R.
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If it has no date you have to assume it is a common date unless proven otherwise. Actually it is worth less than the most common date because most people don't want a coin without a date. At that point the only person that would want it is someone without a Liberty Cap large cent that wants one as an example or to fill a Dansco 7070 spot. That being said, sometimes there are other markers that can give you a date or narrow down the range of dates it could be. Although admittedly a heavily worn obverse might make it tough to see the markers.
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The lower face determines the grade. That's it. Otherwise, 80% of all graded Morgans would be a grade higher because the reverses are almost always far nicer than the obverses.
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At that point the only person that would want it is someone without a Liberty Cap large cent that wants one as an example or to fill a Dansco 7070 spot.


Heh. That's actually the exact reason I was interested in it. And then I double-checked and realized it's actually too old for my 7070 album...
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The obverse is the side that is usually given the most weight. If the grades of both sides are different, I usually average the two grades if the obverse is better than the reverse or the coin is in the lower to mid circulated grades as long as the grade differences are not too great.
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